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Originally posted by cryrst

Yes any of us can get annoyed if people disagree with our thoughts !!!

What I witnessed though was well beyond just being annoyed. They were completely certain. Like a fanatical religious believer who is convinced only they know the truth. But it was all just fantasy, which I knew was untrue, as I had seen things live.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What I witnessed though was well beyond just being annoyed. They were completely certain. Like a fanatical religious believer who is convinced only they know the truth. But it was all just fantasy, which I knew was untrue, as I had seen things live.

Now who does this remind me of?

 

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Interesting commentary on Trump's upcoming arrest, one I largely agree with, if the Democrats just left it alone he would whither away.

It's not a crime to pay off someone, rich and powerful people do it all the time. They will have to prove that this is related to campaign finance which doesn't even come under state law but federal law.

The person who should be investigated over campaign finance is Hilary and no doubt if the Republicans get back in they will go after her and so the carousel goes round and round.

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The Trump "arrest " is farcical when the actual circumstances of the charge and the prosecution's case are looked at objectively.

It's political theatre so the Dems can get maybe a mug shot.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Originally posted by HKOwen

The Trump "arrest " is farcical when the actual circumstances of the charge and the prosecution's case are looked at objectively.

It's political theatre so the Dems can get maybe a mug shot.

No-one should be above the law. Indeed, those in high office need to be held to a higher standard than those who aren't.

It isn't our job to look at the charge and case objectively. Firstly, because we don't know what they are, but secondly because that's the job of a judge and jury.

Trump must be prosecuted wherever sufficient evidence to do exists. Not only because he deserves it, for his shameful behaviour, but as a warning to others that no-one can expect to escape.

So I don't buy the "political motivation" conspiracy theory. This is the law, slowly grinding its way towards justice.

If any other politician, Hilary included, has done anything deserving of prosecution, then let it happen. In truth there has already been ample opportunity to so, so the probability must be that there isn't the evidence.

 

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The only thing that has ever been "deranged" in the sorry saga that is the Trump story, is the way that some still believe in him.

You can now add to that this idea that just because Trump managed to become POTUS that is enough to shield him from prosecution. If indeed he will be prosecuted. Something we just don't know yet. If it does come to a Court then he will have every chance to establish his innocence, something an innocent man would welcome.

Despite appearances and Republican bs, it being a political act makes no sense at all.

Such a prosecution hands attention and sympathy to Trump and politically is an own goal.

This is simply due process working its own slow way to a conclusion, whatever that may be.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The only thing that has ever been "deranged" in the sorry saga that is the Trump story, is the way that some still believe in him.

You can now add to that this idea that just because Trump managed to become POTUS that is enough to shield him from prosecution. If indeed he will be prosecuted. Something we just don't know yet. If it does come to a Court then he will have every chance to establish his innocence, something an innocent man would welcome.

Despite appearances and Republican bs, it being a political act makes no sense at all.

Such a prosecution hands attention and sympathy to Trump and politically is an own goal.

This is simply due process working its own slow way to a conclusion, whatever that may be.

So the fact the District Attorney involved is a radical democrat has no bearing.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So the fact the District Attorney involved is a radical democrat has no bearing.

His approach to how his department administer the law is a sideshow. It's still the law.

On the way this is portrayed by Trump and some Republicans it has a huge bearing. They are the ones playing the political cards.

In Court it will have no bearing at all.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

His approach to how his department administer the law is a sideshow. It's still the law.

On the way this is portrayed by Trump and some Republicans it has a huge bearing. They are the ones playing the political cards.

In Court it will have no bearing at all.

This is not going to be a career ending event.

From Forbes.

He would be immediately released once he’s arraigned under new bail rules in New York that allow people who are indicted on misdemeanor charges or non-violent felonies to be released on their own recognizance without bail.

Manhattan criminal cases typically take more than a year to go to trial, experts cited by Reuters note, so Trump’s trial likely wouldn’t be for a while—possibly until the 2024 election season is well underway, or even after the election takes place, which Reuters notes would be uncharted legal territory if Trump were tried on state charges as president or president-elect.

Being indicted or even convicted wouldn’t stop Trump from becoming president on its own - there are no restrictions in the Constitution that bar people from becoming president if they’ve been indicted—though if Trump becomes a convicted felon, he could face restrictions on being able to vote for himself.


 

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It's not at all a waste of resources to have a huge team of investigators constantly trying to find something illegal about Trump.
If I were robbed in New York, or burgled, or my car stolen, I wouldn't at all be angry with the District Attorney or wider police administration for wasting time, resources and money on this.
I mean get stabbed by all means, get shot, but don't pay off some p*** star. The world's most heinous crime. Throw the book at him - although that's presumably cruel and unusual.
Whatever next? Unpaid parking fine from 1975 - someone get the CIA and FBI in to assist.

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

This is not going to be a career ending event.

From Forbes.

He would be immediately released once he’s arraigned under new bail rules in New York that allow people who are indicted on misdemeanor charges or non-violent felonies to be released on their own recognizance without bail.

Manhattan criminal cases typically take more than a year to go to trial, experts cited by Reuters note, so Trump’s trial likely wouldn’t be for a while—possibly until the 2024 election season is well underway, or even after the election takes place, which Reuters notes would be uncharted legal territory if Trump were tried on state charges as president or president-elect.

Being indicted or even convicted wouldn’t stop Trump from becoming president on its own - there are no restrictions in the Constitution that bar people from becoming president if they’ve been indicted—though if Trump becomes a convicted felon, he could face restrictions on being able to vote for himself.


I think that's all true, which is why it would be a political own goal if the Democrats were doing it for that reason.

I believe the DA is doing it to make a statement that is important for the future. Just in case Trump, or another Trump, gets elected again. That no-one is above the law.

I accept that throwing resources at it which means there are less to investigate other crimes will annoy some, and throws meat to the right, but defending an important principle is vital for a functioning Democracy. Which the USA barely has at the moment.

 

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