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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Feb 21 11.02am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Give Butland a chance. The stats aren't lying - we're seeing it with our own eyes.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

Give Butland a chance. The stats aren't lying - we're seeing it with our own eyes.

and if he turns out to be s***e (quite possible given that he hasnt played much, and he'll still have the same s***e defence in front of him), then what?

 

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View davidpercival's Profile davidpercival Flag Croydon 09 Feb 21 2.43pm Send a Private Message to davidpercival Add davidpercival as a friend

I don't care what these stats say, Guaita has probably been best. or at least most consistent, player this season. Signing him up for a new contract was our best move for a while.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 09 Feb 21 5.53pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by davidpercival

I don't care what these stats say, Guaita has probably been best. or at least most consistent, player this season. Signing him up for a new contract was our best move for a while.

Agreed. Pretty much the last of our worries IMO.

 

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View General's Profile General Flag 09 Feb 21 8.11pm Send a Private Message to General Add General as a friend

Originally posted by CT Charlie

Last season prior to the pandemic (3/20) by the same metric he was the top keeper in Europe.

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I'm glad we re-signed him.

Just what I was going to say

Stats can be twisted all over the place

But shot difficulty to saves made is the main one that counts

For example, Guaita had 7 goals against him v Liverpool that a goalie had zero chance of saving

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Caterham 10 Feb 21 7.51am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

and if he turns out to be s***e (quite possible given that he hasnt played much, and he'll still have the same s***e defence in front of him), then what?

Spot on. The problem isnít the keeper. He has 10 people in front of him and a Manager setting out tactics. Tactically and defensively we have been poor and easy to work out. We donít change our style, we buy players that can possibly do something different but deploy them in exactly the same tired way.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Feb 21 9.56pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

I saw him in the park with his family this evening. Looked awfully cold.

 

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View Elwissthebest's Profile Elwissthebest Flag Marlborough 13 Feb 21 8.02pm Send a Private Message to Elwissthebest Add Elwissthebest as a friend

He's a stunning shot-stopper with incredible reactions but he just doesn't dominate his goal- never mind the area. He's just not tall enough. Butland is well worth a go.

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 15 Feb 21 1.16pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by Elwissthebest

He's a stunning shot-stopper with incredible reactions but he just doesn't dominate his goal- never mind the area. He's just not tall enough. Butland is well worth a go.

teams are definitely targeting us at corners now as he never comes off his line. Burnley's goal was a classic - just get it in the 6 yard box and any header will almost always result in a goal.
Same with DeGea at Man U - teams will target these weaknesses.
We look like conceding at almost every corner now so this is clearly something that needs sorting asap. Doesn't help if centre backs lose their men repeatedly too - in recent games Dann and Cahill have both been guilty of this repeatedly

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 21 1.20pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

teams are definitely targeting us at corners now as he never comes off his line. Burnley's goal was a classic - just get it in the 6 yard box and any header will almost always result in a goal.
Same with DeGea at Man U - teams will target these weaknesses.
We look like conceding at almost every corner now so this is clearly something that needs sorting asap. Doesn't help if centre backs lose their men repeatedly too - in recent games Dann and Cahill have both been guilty of this repeatedly

Dunk, Webster and the 6ft 7in Burn of Brighton are a real threat in the air at set-pieces.

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 15 Feb 21 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Poor old Vicente!

'Even Guaita struggling for listless Palace'

(Times headline in the Burnley match report'

He has sunk further in the Times keeper listings.
The stats say he has now let in 10.8 more goals than he should. Miles behind Patricio and McCarthy.
Nick Pope streets ahead with plus 7.2 goals.

They also say he has conceded same number of goals as last season but in 11 fewer games.

Life ain't fair and it is far from his fault.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 15 Feb 21 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Poor old Vicente!

'Even Guaita struggling for listless Palace'

(Times headline in the Burnley match report'

He has sunk further in the Times keeper listings.
The stats say he has now let in 10.8 more goals than he should. Miles behind Patricio and McCarthy.
Nick Pope streets ahead with plus 7.2 goals.

They also say he has conceded same number of goals as last season but in 11 fewer games.

Life ain't fair and it is far from his fault.

I read this report too and you're right, it is unfair when he gets such scant support from his defenders.

 


Dad and I would watch games on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end, probably at the same time as Roy.

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