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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 07 Apr 21 11.40am Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Parish won't have been happy with some of the performances this season and the state of the squad demands significant change, but Roy has been a victim of circumstance, if he was given the funds to build a squad as good as the one he took over from (Cabaye and Loftus Cheek in midfield) we'd no doubt get a lot more of the performances we saw away at Everton and a lot less of the defensive dross we've witnessed when an unbalanced, ageing squad has been ravaged by injuries.

Having said that a squad rebuild is not that feasible in the hands of a 73 year old and would be better in the hands of someone who has the time to see the project through. Brighty and Morrison know what's going on, and Clinton has has said the club are looking to make a change - if Roy stays it would only be for one more year and our targets might not be available then. If Howe rejects Celtic I can see him coming here, Dyche is not far behind - I can't see Parish taking a punt on Steve Cooper (whose tactics are widely criticised by Swansea fans) or the temperamental Portuguese. If the first two are not available then I can see Roy getting another year, but I don't think he'd be replaced by the other two. We may try and do a Southampton and find an obscure foreign gem, but we tried it once and failed miserably.

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 07 Apr 21 2.20pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

Parish won't have been happy with some of the performances this season and the state of the squad demands significant change, but Roy has been a victim of circumstance, if he was given the funds to build a squad as good as the one he took over from (Cabaye and Loftus Cheek in midfield) we'd no doubt get a lot more of the performances we saw away at Everton and a lot less of the defensive dross we've witnessed when an unbalanced, ageing squad has been ravaged by injuries.

Having said that a squad rebuild is not that feasible in the hands of a 73 year old and would be better in the hands of someone who has the time to see the project through. Brighty and Morrison know what's going on, and Clinton has has said the club are looking to make a change - if Roy stays it would only be for one more year and our targets might not be available then. If Howe rejects Celtic I can see him coming here, Dyche is not far behind - I can't see Parish taking a punt on Steve Cooper (whose tactics are widely criticised by Swansea fans) or the temperamental Portuguese. If the first two are not available then I can see Roy getting another year, but I don't think he'd be replaced by the other two. We may try and do a Southampton and find an obscure foreign gem, but we tried it once and failed miserably.

FdB was not obscure though. He turned out to be just a tw*t

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 07 Apr 21 2.33pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by slubglurge

FdB was not obscure though. He turned out to be just a tw*t

I would say the extent of his t***tery was obscured from view until he was in post, then it became clear very quickly. Makes me wonder what questions they asked the bloke at interview?

Did they ask him to explain how he would use the (then current) squad? FDB apparently told a few of them he didn't want them before they had even kicked a ball for him. Did Parish and Freedman know he would do that?

Whoever gets the job next will surely be asked to set out how they will use what we have to best effect.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (07 Apr 2021 2.34pm)

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag People's Republic of Gozo 07 Apr 21 4.18pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Parish has publicly stated that FdB was a real gentleman and a nice guy and it was just a case of they quickly realised he was not the right fit at that time. Parish could have been lying, but he said this long after he left so I see no reason why he would say that.

One pundit (Leon Osman) made the obvious point the other night when he said that if Palace are focusing on developing the squad for the future then that takes four or five years and you don't employ a 73-year-old man to oversee that realistically. I think he'll go as we haven't heard any positive noises to suggest otherwise from the club or the manager, and Roy's demeanour increasingly whiffs of one who is heading to the gallows (and perhaps thinks it somewhat unfair).

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 07 Apr 21 4.45pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild


One pundit (Leon Osman) made the obvious point the other night when he said that if Palace are focusing on developing the squad for the future then that takes four or five years and you don't employ a 73-year-old man to oversee that realistically. I think he'll go as we haven't heard any positive noises to suggest otherwise from the club or the manager, and Roy's demeanour increasingly whiffs of one who is heading to the gallows (and perhaps thinks it somewhat unfair).


Omanís,right about the timing involved in developing a squad for the future. And itís not likely you would put that task in the hands of a 73 year old.
But surely the task should have been handed in a far more positive way than has been the case to a 69 year old four years ago.
Not of course in one hit but certainly a genuine building for the future beyond what we have seen.
Letís face it if this happens now itís virtually from scratch, and five years , with the guidance of an extremely talented pair of hands might well be needed to still be in this division in five years.

 

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View Eagle Black.'s Profile Eagle Black. Flag South Croydon 07 Apr 21 4.56pm Send a Private Message to Eagle Black. Add Eagle Black. as a friend

There's been rumours in the Bournemouth area for a few weeks now that Howe to Palace next season is done.

Don't know if anyone else has heard this.

 

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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 07 Apr 21 5.29pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

No proof black eagle but have been told the same

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 07 Apr 21 6.46pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

but the Celtic noises are saying it's a case of 'when' rather than 'if' he takes over up there ... a statement was due and it's turned out to be a fudge so Howe could still be coming to us, though there aren't many experienced candidates lining up for the Celtic job, Howe is well out in front.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 07 Apr 21 8.05pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

I don't get this idea of a 'squad for the future'. We might need, or want, a younger squad, than we've currently got, but it has to be good enough to win games straight away or we get relegated.

In that sense I see no reason why Roy can't coach a younger squad next season, and someone else takes over the year after, or whenever Roy does retire.

 

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View Eagle Black.'s Profile Eagle Black. Flag South Croydon 07 Apr 21 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Eagle Black. Add Eagle Black. as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I don't get this idea of a 'squad for the future'. We might need, or want, a younger squad, than we've currently got, but it has to be good enough to win games straight away or we get relegated.

In that sense I see no reason why Roy can't coach a younger squad next season, and someone else takes over the year after, or whenever Roy does retire.

Roy doesn't do playing youth on a consistant basis.

I hope Roy Goes if i'm honest.

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 07 Apr 21 9.09pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Howe reportedly house hunting in Glasgow,not Croydon!!

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 07 Apr 21 9.14pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I don't get this idea of a 'squad for the future'. We might need, or want, a younger squad, than we've currently got, but it has to be good enough to win games straight away or we get relegated.

In that sense I see no reason why Roy can't coach a younger squad next season, and someone else takes over the year after, or whenever Roy does retire.

I think the rebuild thing is bcos the squad doesn't just need a tweak here or there, we need at least one decent central defender under the age of 30, two central midfielders (all pairings from the two Macs, Luka and Jairo aren't really much cop), and very probably a replacement for Zaha and an upgrade on Townsend - it's not just incremental change but a clear picture of what the squad needs and the best direction for it to go in, a bit of vision in other words. It will take more than one window to sort it out and Roy might be a short-term option but he's not a long-term option, and the squad is at a bit of a a crossroads.

 

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