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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Mar 21 9.56pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

My expectation is each season PL survival, a cup run now and again, the occasional scalp of a top club, some memorable moments ( Ayew wonder goal, Eze free kick, Mateta back heel, Wilf on fire etc ). With that goes the other side of the coin, grinding out results, some dull games and some horrendous defensive errors by individuals.

Basically what we have now.

What I do not expect is a regular supply of exciting play week in week out. We last had that in the season when Murray was top Championship scorer, or when we were terrifying defences with Wilf down one wing and Bolasie down the other but those days have gone.

It's easy to criticise the performances from an entertainment aspect but I can't see we are going to consistently have stability and entertainment without a substantial amount of cash appearing from somewhere.

That's just my opinion, but it's gets a bit wearing having so much moaning and criticism based on someone not enjoying watching.


 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Ali_Campbell's Profile Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 02 Mar 21 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Ali_Campbell Add Ali_Campbell as a friend

100% agree

Our expectations are aligned.

Iím not too bothered about performances. Itís all about winning and losing. We played terrible against brighton, but waking up after a victory is all I cared about.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Mar 21 10.02pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

My expectation is each season PL survival, a cup run now and again, the occasional scalp of a top club, some memorable moments ( Ayew wonder goal, Eze free kick, Mateta back heel, Wilf on fire etc ). With that goes the other side of the coin, grinding out results, some dull games and some horrendous defensive errors by individuals.

Basically what we have now.

What I do not expect is a regular supply of exciting play week in week out. We last had that in the season when Murray was top Championship scorer, or when we were terrifying defences with Wilf down one wing and Bolasie down the other but those days have gone.

It's easy to criticise the performances from an entertainment aspect but I can't see we are going to consistently have stability and entertainment without a substantial amount of cash appearing from somewhere.

That's just my opinion, but it's gets a bit wearing having so much moaning and criticism based on someone not enjoying watching.


So we should expect zero excitement instead, apart from once every few months? How about no shots on goal or no attacks for weeks or months? We are grown up Palace fans, not school children.

 


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View PZ Eagle's Profile PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 02 Mar 21 10.15pm Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

So we should expect zero excitement instead, apart from once every few months? How about no shots on goal or no attacks for weeks or months? We are grown up Palace fans, not school children.

Now you are. going over the top. How did we beat Wolves, Newcastle, Brighton without any shots or attacks for weeks or months?. It's not a usual season at the moment
with no crowds, games coming thick and fast and a horrendous injury list. Most grown up Palace fans accept the reality of this situation.

Edited by PZ Eagle (02 Mar 2021 10.16pm)

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Mar 21 10.35pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Not what I said at all

Pesky fact ,we have won 9 games and scored 29 goals this season.

Reality can be shock

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

So we should expect zero excitement instead, apart from once every few months? How about no shots on goal or no attacks for weeks or months? We are grown up Palace fans, not school children.

Edited by HKOwen (02 Mar 2021 10.39pm)

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View PZ Eagle's Profile PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 02 Mar 21 10.39pm Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

My expectation is each season PL survival, a cup run now and again, the occasional scalp of a top club, some memorable moments ( Ayew wonder goal, Eze free kick, Mateta back heel, Wilf on fire etc ). With that goes the other side of the coin, grinding out results, some dull games and some horrendous defensive errors by individuals.

Basically what we have now.

What I do not expect is a regular supply of exciting play week in week out. We last had that in the season when Murray was top Championship scorer, or when we were terrifying defences with Wilf down one wing and Bolasie down the other but those days have gone.

It's easy to criticise the performances from an entertainment aspect but I can't see we are going to consistently have stability and entertainment without a substantial amount of cash appearing from somewhere.

That's just my opinion, but it's gets a bit wearing having so much moaning and criticism based on someone not enjoying watching.


Spot on, well said.

 


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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 02 Mar 21 10.50pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

Fact- many teams of our size have tried to play expansive football and failed.
Stoke had Pulis for ages in PL and what happened when they tried to change?
Swansea tried and succeeded for a while where are they now?
Sheffield Utd did well last season and now?
The list goes on, what I want to see is passion in our play which IMO is lacking right now!!

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Mar 21 10.57pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I get your drift, passion is subjective and IMHO this unprecedented season with congested fixtures and no crowds has contributed to that.


Did Mateta not show some passion after his brilliant goal.

Originally posted by davehuggins

Fact- many teams of our size have tried to play expansive football and failed.
Stoke had Pulis for ages in PL and what happened when they tried to change?
Swansea tried and succeeded for a while where are they now?
Sheffield Utd did well last season and now?
The list goes on, what I want to see is passion in our play which IMO is lacking right now!!

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 02 Mar 21 11.16pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

My expectation is each season PL survival, a cup run now and again, the occasional scalp of a top club, some memorable moments ( Ayew wonder goal, Eze free kick, Mateta back heel, Wilf on fire etc ). With that goes the other side of the coin, grinding out results, some dull games and some horrendous defensive errors by individuals.

Basically what we have now.

What I do not expect is a regular supply of exciting play week in week out. We last had that in the season when Murray was top Championship scorer, or when we were terrifying defences with Wilf down one wing and Bolasie down the other but those days have gone.

It's easy to criticise the performances from an entertainment aspect but I can't see we are going to consistently have stability and entertainment without a substantial amount of cash appearing from somewhere.

That's just my opinion, but it's gets a bit wearing having so much moaning and criticism based on someone not enjoying watching.

I expect Palace to play football and that should involve attacking the goal from time to time. Our entertainment value is negligible and on that basis I often feel that I'm wasting my time watching them. Your approach is probably realistic but we ARE all paying for what we see and are entitled to an opinion.

 


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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 02 Mar 21 11.20pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

I've tried asking this question a few times and getting Roy's ardent supporters to lay down a benchmark of what success looks like.

For me, finishing higher than Sheffield United, West Brom, and Fulham won't represent a successful season. The narrative that staying up by any means mark some kind of miracle is simply not true anymore.

Trying to make it objective. We have:

The 9th biggest wage bill
The 15th most expensively assembled squad.

So somewhere between 9th and 15th wouldn't be unreasonable.

Given we are in our 8th year in the premiership, and our finishes have been 11th, 10th, 15th*, 14th, 11th, 12th, and 14th. (*for the cup final). I don't think would be unreasonable to claim that 14th with poor cup performance would represent a very poor season. 11th would represent a very good season. Any higher than 11th would be excellent.

Roy's remaining zealots will point out that after 26 games we are 13th. However, we have 12 games left, only 3 of which are against teams in the bottom half of the table. We did manage to obtain a staggering 15 points from the teams coming up in the first half of the season. In the run in I doubt we will get more that 9 in a best case scenario. 15th or 16th is all we have to look forward to this year.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Mar 21 11.23pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I have not said that no one in entitled to an opinion

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 02 Mar 21 11.25pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

So we should expect zero excitement instead, apart from once every few months? How about no shots on goal or no attacks for weeks or months? We are grown up Palace fans, not school children.

The squad is weaker then it should ever need to be with us due to age and underperforming individuals, until this is eventually sorted out which could possibly take a few seasons once a new coach takes over, in our normal state we will be able to entertain somewhat better, things have definitely deteriorated more during this Covid outbreak because the rest periods are all over the place resulting in the older players picking up injuries and their performances being very inconsistent, everyone is struggling apart form one team which is running away with a bench worth more money then the entire Spurs team lol

 

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