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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 12 Mar 21 5.34pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

No way, One trick pony. Has now been found out. Cant change his system. Has signed rubbish. Going down and as much his fault as anyones at SU.

No thanks

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 12 Mar 21 7.53pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Iím surprised people are so dismissive of the likes of Wilder and Howe.
Both have excellent career track records.
This is one of the first seasons of Ďfailureí for Wilder and Howe had a very good career at Bournemouth until his final season, although his short spell at Burnley didnít pull up any trees.
Iíve no idea if they would be suitable managers for Palace,but none of us really do, and to dismiss them on the basis of one recent poor season seems a tad unfair.
How many managers go throughout a career without a blemish?
Perhaps Guardiola in recent times.
But look at the clubs heís managed.
Realistically weíre not going to get an elite Champions League manager so we are shopping at more of a Tesco than a Harrods.
Thereís likely to be question marks against whomever we appoint.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 12 Mar 21 8.19pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Putitout


I think Wilder, would be one of the most realistic choices open to Palace, if Hodgson, calls it a day. The main reason to say that is any new manager needs to be ready for the the restrictions imposed by Palaces financial realities, and yet be capable of getting everything out of that situation possible.
The fact that Wilder needed recruits is absolutely obvious. There is only so much can be done with any squad of players. In the Premier league, That applies more than in any other division.
He has proved he can get blood out of a stone, just as Roy, has done for two years now. Wilders squad was never as good as ours, yet he still leads two one, in results.
Palace are going to be a tough call for some time yet, but he would get an, if not great squad , a better one than the one he worked with this year..If he got out of a slightly revamped Palace, as much as he got into a Championship team playing out of its skin, for him and his tactics. We would be in good hands.


A depressing assesment of his abilty, he was in total control of who they bought, so if they have a poor squad its down to him. The reason he is leaving Utd is he wont work with a Director pf Football, who the owner wants to put on place.
So I cant see Freeman recommending him.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 12 Mar 21 8.47pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

I'm torn on this. Part of me thinks that he's quite a good manager. The other part says he's a dour northerner who thinks he's Brian Clough. Nowhere near.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 12 Mar 21 9.08pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

A depressing assesment of his abilty, he was in total control of who they bought, so if they have a poor squad its down to him. The reason he is leaving Utd is he wont work with a Director pf Football, who the owner wants to put on place.
So I cant see Freeman recommending him.

What depresses me is that virtually every name ,that Palace have a realistic chance of attracting. Carries a question mark , if not as big as the one on Wilder, then not far off it.
Letís face it unless we go abroad or find an exceptional talent in the lower divisions. Itís a precession of people with at least one failure recorded at this level.

 

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 12 Mar 21 9.13pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by steven_t92

For some reason Chris Wilder is leaving Sheffield Utd today according to the BBC, I can't understand it at all but would you have him at Palace if Roy's contract ends this summer?

No.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Mar 21 9.14pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

A depressing assesment of his abilty, he was in total control of who they bought, so if they have a poor squad its down to him. The reason he is leaving Utd is he wont work with a Director pf Football, who the owner wants to put on place.
So I cant see Freeman recommending him.

If we had Wilder or Howe, I'd expect them to be better at getting players than Freedman, whom I just don't see being qualified to be our Director of Football. I'd say that Dyche wouldn't want our current model either, or Franks. Don't know about Cooper - he may not mind.
Anybody like Rafa would not work in our model, in my opinion. Could be a bit of a stumbling block for us.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 12 Mar 21 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

If we had Wilder or Howe, I'd expect them to be better at getting players than Freedman, whom I just don't see being qualified to be our Director of Football. I'd say that Dyche wouldn't want our current model either, or Franks. Don't know about Cooper - he may not mind.
Anybody like Rafa would not work in our model, in my opinion. Could be a bit of a stumbling block for us.

Obviously there not better and getting players than Freeman, as they bought players that got them relegated. 15 Premier clubs have Directors of Football or Sporting Directors, anyone who wont work with them is limiting their chances of of employment.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Mar 21 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Is there any sacked manager anywhere who some fan wouldn't put forward?

Give me Roy anyday. When he goes I want him to be replaced by another international/trophy winning manager, not some here today gone tomorrow nobody.

Oh, and for Christís sake, no more former players.

Peter Taylor,
Steve Kember,
Alan Pardew,
Dowie.

Need I say more?

Raise your sights people.
We might not get Pep or Jose, but surely we can do better than Chris bleedin' Wilder.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Mar 21 11.06pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Obviously there not better and getting players than Freeman, as they bought players that got them relegated. 15 Premier clubs have Directors of Football or Sporting Directors, anyone who wont work with them is limiting their chances of of employment.

It's not particularly the DOF model in general that I'm thinking is a stumbling block - although it may be for a couple of managers - more our DOF model.
I don't think we're particularly good at signing players. Plenty have gone wrong and, frankly, look at some of our squad. We need a few players. I wish I could say in Freedman I trust, I really do, but I don't think we have a great transfer system in place here. I could be totally wrong.
I take your point about some of the signings these managers made. But, I suspect, there are plenty of players there that most would have thought would work out. Some did, some didn't. There's little denying that plenty of ours have not worked out. I guess no one gets it right all the time.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Mar 21 11.09pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Is there any sacked manager anywhere who some fan wouldn't put forward?

Give me Roy anyday. When he goes I want him to be replaced by another international/trophy winning manager, not some here today gone tomorrow nobody.

Oh, and for Christís sake, no more former players.

Peter Taylor,
Steve Kember,
Alan Pardew,
Dowie.

Need I say more?

Raise your sights people.
We might not get Pep or Jose, but surely we can do better than Chris bleedin' Wilder.

Former players who I wouldn't totally dismiss would be Lombardo or Popovic. I haven't been following their careers at all, should have googled them really. They could have gone to sh1t for all I know.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Ali_Campbell's Profile Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 12 Mar 21 11.48pm Send a Private Message to Ali_Campbell Add Ali_Campbell as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Is there any sacked manager anywhere who some fan wouldn't put forward?

Give me Roy anyday. When he goes I want him to be replaced by another international/trophy winning manager, not some here today gone tomorrow nobody.

Oh, and for Christís sake, no more former players.

Peter Taylor,
Steve Kember,
Alan Pardew,
Dowie.

Need I say more?

Raise your sights people.
We might not get Pep or Jose, but surely we can do better than Chris bleedin' Wilder.


100% agree. Why are we suggesting managers who have failed in their previous jobs.

Wilder has spent 100+m in the last two summer windows and they have had the worst start in premier league history and bottom of the league.

Howe - relegated Bournemouth

I mean, surely we should be looking up at trophy winning managers or we are better off sticking with Roy.

 

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