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View multiclub.thesis's Profile multiclub.thesis Flag 19 Mar 21 10.25am Send a Private Message to multiclub.thesis Add multiclub.thesis as a friend

Hi!

We are two business administration students who are currently writing our degree project. As our topic of choice, we opted to study multi-club ownership within professional football clubs as we’ve personally seen an influx of this structure. Consequently, we’re gathering input from football fans to take note of their views and to be aided in locating these multi-club connections. Please take two minutes two answer our short survey, we will later publish our findings within this thread and on our Instagram page!

Survey link:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfnWNN1D8T4PKzjF48rK7FqmQEPMjoCc4Ify1aWola7Z5IByA/viewform?usp=sf_link

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Mar 21 10.31am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Those links aren't going to work as they are. I think you may have an icon or an emoji or something that won't work with this text code.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View multiclub.thesis's Profile multiclub.thesis Flag 19 Mar 21 10.41am Send a Private Message to multiclub.thesis Add multiclub.thesis as a friend

So sorry for that... Hopefully this link works better:

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Mar 21 11.00am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Done it although I think you could have included more questions to explore why people are concerned.

My concerns over multiple club ownership is around money laundering, dodgy transfers and propping up clubs that are going bust.

If you own a PL club it must be very tempting to subside a club you own in another country that does not have the same revenue streams. You can do that by signing a player from that club at an inflated price or some sort of bogus co-operation scheme between the 2 clubs, then again there is simple fraud.

Ask the Charlton fans how they felt about having a Belgium owner who kept moving managers and players around his multiple clubs like it was a monopoly game.

 


One more point

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 19 Mar 21 11.46am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Done it although I think you could have included more questions to explore why people are concerned.

My concerns over multiple club ownership is around money laundering, dodgy transfers and propping up clubs that are going bust.

If you own a PL club it must be very tempting to subside a club you own in another country that does not have the same revenue streams. You can do that by signing a player from that club at an inflated price or some sort of bogus co-operation scheme between the 2 clubs, then again there is simple fraud.

Ask the Charlton fans how they felt about having a Belgium owner who kept moving managers and players around his multiple clubs like it was a monopoly game.


Well said Badger 11. This is the real crux of the matter and the football authorities haven't yet got to grips with it. Questions relating to these issues really do need to be in the survey.

 

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View multiclub.thesis's Profile multiclub.thesis Flag 19 Mar 21 1.29pm Send a Private Message to multiclub.thesis Add multiclub.thesis as a friend

Thank you for your input, most seem to voice their perceived pros/cons in the third-to-last question. These concerns that you've voiced have been recorded, but as they won't be empirically tested we're not looking for the stand-out opinions. We merely want to see how fans perceive the concept, how they see its future panning out and if they know their own club's official direct affiliations with other clubs through sharing the same owner.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 19 Mar 21 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Completed. Good luck

 

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View multiclub.thesis's Profile multiclub.thesis Flag 22 Mar 21 9.12pm Send a Private Message to multiclub.thesis Add multiclub.thesis as a friend

Out of the 16 Palace fans who've participated, 12 suggested that the owners did not practice multi-club ownership whereas 4 answered: "don't know". This is potentially quite alarming from a transparency perspective as David Blitzer holds significant stakes in both Spanish side AD Alcorcón and Belgian side Waasland-Beveren. Does this change your opinion on the concept or do they remain the same?

AD Alcorcón link:
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Waasland-Beveren link:
[Link]

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 23 Mar 21 6.43am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by multiclub.thesis

Out of the 16 Palace fans who've participated, 12 suggested that the owners did not practice multi-club ownership whereas 4 answered: "don't know". This is potentially quite alarming from a transparency perspective as David Blitzer holds significant stakes in both Spanish side AD Alcorcón and Belgian side Waasland-Beveren. Does this change your opinion on the concept or do they remain the same?

AD Alcorcón link:
[Link]

Waasland-Beveren link:
[Link]

I had no idea about this. Was aware he had stakes in US Sports teams

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Mar 21 12.15pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by multiclub.thesis

Out of the 16 Palace fans who've participated, 12 suggested that the owners did not practice multi-club ownership whereas 4 answered: "don't know". This is potentially quite alarming from a transparency perspective as David Blitzer holds significant stakes in both Spanish side AD Alcorcón and Belgian side Waasland-Beveren. Does this change your opinion on the concept or do they remain the same?

AD Alcorcón link:
[Link]

Waasland-Beveren link:
[Link]

Is he f#cking them over too? Will have to look into it. I didn't know. I'll be annoyed if they have any good players but noting his ownership style, I doubt it.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 24 Mar 21 1.46pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Is he f#cking them over too? Will have to look into it. I didn't know. I'll be annoyed if they have any good players but noting his ownership style, I doubt it.

Ive never heard of them so it might be a forgone conclusion about players.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 24 Mar 21 3.48pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by multiclub.thesis

Out of the 16 Palace fans who've participated, 12 suggested that the owners did not practice multi-club ownership whereas 4 answered: "don't know". This is potentially quite alarming from a transparency perspective as David Blitzer holds significant stakes in both Spanish side AD Alcorcón and Belgian side Waasland-Beveren. Does this change your opinion on the concept or do they remain the same?

AD Alcorcón link:
[Link]

Waasland-Beveren link:
[Link]

I am one of the 16, and I didn't know about Blitzer holding stakes in those clubs. I don't think it matters much for now at least, as he owns stakes in them (and us) rather than being the owner of any of them and so isn't in a position of control as the Watford owners are. Plus (more to the point) there hasn't been any of the facets of multi-club ownership. The three teams aren't all staffed by a rotating cast of the same pool of players, and there appears no blurring of any lines between any of those clubs at any level, which is what I would be most concerned about.

 

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