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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 26 Mar 21 10.34am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Sakho has played 4 league games this season and played 14 last season. In the 4 years of his contract he only played more than 20 games a season once.
He is one of the top earners on over £100k a week.
He is also 31 now and currently injured.
IMHO it would be madness to offer him a contract unless on massively reduced terms, which he almost certainly won't accept.

I presume the Wickham comment is a joke.

Some fans don't get it

Before insulting others whose opinions don't co-incide with yours there is sensible reasoning in the opinion that you are rubbishing.

You say that Sakho won't accept reduced terms as if you know him and his thinking but then you go on to say that it's madness to offer him a new contract as he is injured too often. Won't other clubs be aware of his injury record too or will they be stupid enough to offer him his current salary knowing that he will only play for half a season?

Likewise to replace Wickham with a younger Premier League quality striker is likely to cost far in excess of keeping him on for another year which is money that you yourself have indicated that we can't afford.

If Wickham stays injury free for the rest of the season and shows his fitness in the development squad games plus the odd cameo for the first team I think it could be very cost effective to keep him on

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 26 Mar 21 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Now is the time to blood fringe or youngsters who Roy feels have a point to prove for next season. If there are none, then that's too bad.

I would also look to who would make the cut and start searching.

By now Parish knows who will be manager next season, if not, he's a fool...

This is pre season.

 


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View aashman12's Profile aashman12 Flag 26 Mar 21 4.31pm Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

According to transfermarkt.co.uk we have 16 players out of contract...

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... and you simply can't replace / recruit that many players at once. Remember when we tried to sign an entire new squad when we came up under Holloway? It was a shambles.

We signed Stephen Dobbie, Dwight Gayle, Jerome Thomas, Jose Campana, Elliot Grandin, Marouane Chamakh, Florian Marange, Jimmy Kebe, Jack Hunt, Adrian Mariappa, Barry Bannan, Adlene Guedioura, Scott Dann, Joe Ledley and Jason Puncheon. With the exception of 2/3 of them, that's a shocking list.

We should have been undertaking this process over the last 4/5 transfers windows rather than sitting idly by and hoping that the bargain bin would provide at the very last minute. This is a mess of our own making and we're going to have to renew about 10 30+ years old as a consequence.

6 of them were/are very good signings. Dann and ledley weren't Holloway signings

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Mar 21 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by aashman12

6 of them were/are very good signings. Dann and ledley weren't Holloway signings

They were both signed by Tony Pulis.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Mar 21 9.43pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

They were both signed by Tony Pulis.

was Pardew our worst man in the transfer market ?

Dougie was maybe the best ?

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Mar 21 11.08pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

was Pardew our worst man in the transfer market ?

Dougie was maybe the best ?

Some of the Pardew signings :
Benteke,Wickham,Tomkins,Townsend,Souare,Cabaye.

Some of the Freedman signings :
Ward,Delaney,Jedinak,Bolasie,Murray,Gabbidon.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 27 Mar 21 8.25am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

An overhaul is inevitable, it's just a matter of deciding the criteria that underlines it.
For one, it would be good to see a sensible wage structure in place. For example, bringing in Clyne who reportedly is on near £90k, keeping Meyer on the bench earning £100k a week, while his teammates earn 40k less, retaining the services of sicknote players and players who don't look interested - all can go.
The club should aim to bring the wage bill down along with the average age. I don't think it will be that painful a procedure.
Zaha needs to be built into the equation, and that means letting him go, we've been a one man team for far too long.
Probably a two or three season transformation with a new man at the helm.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (27 Mar 2021 8.41am)

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 29 Mar 21 4.15am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Before insulting others whose opinions don't co-incide with yours there is sensible reasoning in the opinion that you are rubbishing.

You say that Sakho won't accept reduced terms as if you know him and his thinking but then you go on to say that it's madness to offer him a new contract as he is injured too often. Won't other clubs be aware of his injury record too or will they be stupid enough to offer him his current salary knowing that he will only play for half a season?

Likewise to replace Wickham with a younger Premier League quality striker is likely to cost far in excess of keeping him on for another year which is money that you yourself have indicated that we can't afford.

If Wickham stays injury free for the rest of the season and shows his fitness in the development squad games plus the odd cameo for the first team I think it could be very cost effective to keep him on

Cheers for that Midlands. Took the words out of my mouth.

 

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View BelfastEagle's Profile BelfastEagle Flag 29 Mar 21 7.58am Send a Private Message to BelfastEagle Add BelfastEagle as a friend

Who cares if Sakho can’t find another club ? My only concern is that he is off our wage roll as soon as possible.

With regards to a Wickham how many false dawns have we had ? How many hundreds of thousands of pounds of wages have been wasted ? In my opinion thinking that he is a “cost effective” option really underlines why we are in the current situation with regards to the squad. We need to draw a line under Wickham and wish him well.

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 29 Mar 21 9.29am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Before insulting others whose opinions don't co-incide with yours there is sensible reasoning in the opinion that you are rubbishing.

You say that Sakho won't accept reduced terms as if you know him and his thinking but then you go on to say that it's madness to offer him a new contract as he is injured too often. Won't other clubs be aware of his injury record too or will they be stupid enough to offer him his current salary knowing that he will only play for half a season?

Likewise to replace Wickham with a younger Premier League quality striker is likely to cost far in excess of keeping him on for another year which is money that you yourself have indicated that we can't afford.

If Wickham stays injury free for the rest of the season and shows his fitness in the development squad games plus the odd cameo for the first team I think it could be very cost effective to keep him on

Sakho will definitely have to take reduced terms - probably in France, where he and his wife want to live.

Any striker option other than Wickham is a positive as Wickham is so rarely fit he can't be relied on.

Doesn't have to be a Prem signing - so for a lower divison option who has potential - Watkins started at Exeter etc. Peterborough seem to be good at unearthing strikers over the last 10 years or so. There are options.
Also CW is in the same mode as Tekkers - go for someone different e.g. small and fast.
How will we ever have a plan b if all our strikers are of a similar size and style?

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 04 Apr 21 7.19pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

this sumer is going to be so interesting...

bearing in mind our last set of published account, without the AWB money we would have lost best part of £40, given covid lost revenue and spending on eze & ferguson, sorloth aside we could be looking at £60m loss these set of delayed accounts.

in my mind, i think anybody assuming we will spend £50m will be very disappointed.

i can see the majority of players given new contracts, mainly for amortisation reasons, but can see sakho, mccarthy, wickham, kelly & hennessey let go to save us approx £250k a week in wages.

we will sign 2 x youngsters & 2 x freebies to replace them.

i genuinely expect us to spend less than £20m this summer, and i am happy with that.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 04 Apr 21 7.39pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

this sumer is going to be so interesting...

bearing in mind our last set of published account, without the AWB money we would have lost best part of £40, given covid lost revenue and spending on eze & ferguson, sorloth aside we could be looking at £60m loss these set of delayed accounts.

in my mind, i think anybody assuming we will spend £50m will be very disappointed.

i can see the majority of players given new contracts, mainly for amortisation reasons, but can see sakho, mccarthy, wickham, kelly & hennessey let go to save us approx £250k a week in wages.

we will sign 2 x youngsters & 2 x freebies to replace them.

i genuinely expect us to spend less than £20m this summer, and i am happy with that.

Best part of 40 quid, I might be able to help Steve out with that one. only pulling your chain

 

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