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Oldham, Premier League, 1992-93

It's one thing to overturn an eight-point gap to avoid relegation; quite another to do so in the final week of the season. Joe Royle's Oldham had to win three games in seven days and hope either Crystal Palace or Sheffield United made a horlicks of their last two fixtures. The problem was that the first of those three games was away to Aston Villa, who had to win to keep their title challenge alive. On the face of it they had no chance, but Oldham handled the end-of-season pressure/need equation better than Villa and a goal from Nick Henry put the cat among the pigeons. The problem was that, because Henry's goal gave Manchester United their first title for 26 years, its real significance was lost. Indeed, Palace's Geoff Thomas would later say that the relegation battle crept up on them from nowhere.

When a resurgent Sheffield United did the necessary at Everton on the Tuesday, the survival battle was down to two. A day later Oldham beat a feeble Liverpool 3-2 at Boundary Park, while Palace drew 0-0 at Manchester City - ostensibly a decent result, but one which left Palace, who four days earlier had done a lap of honour after their last home game on the assumption of safety, horribly exposed to a final-day sting. If Oldham won and Palace lost, Oldham were safe and Palace were down. On the final day Palace, away at Arsenal, were never in the game and lost 3-0, but Oldham's home match against Southampton oscillated wildly: despite a Matthew Le Tissier hat-trick, Oldham squeaked home 4-3.

Edited by Therealeaglestilidie (11 Apr 2021 9.41pm)

 


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Originally posted by Therealeaglestilidie

Oldham, Premier League, 1992-93

It's one thing to overturn an eight-point gap to avoid relegation; quite another to do so in the final week of the season. Joe Royle's Oldham had to win three games in seven days and hope either Crystal Palace or Sheffield United made a horlicks of their last two fixtures. The problem was that the first of those three games was away to Aston Villa, who had to win to keep their title challenge alive. On the face of it they had no chance, but Oldham handled the end-of-season pressure/need equation better than Villa and a goal from Nick Henry put the cat among the pigeons. The problem was that, because Henry's goal gave Manchester United their first title for 26 years, its real significance was lost. Indeed, Palace's Geoff Thomas would later say that the relegation battle crept up on them from nowhere.

When a resurgent Sheffield United did the necessary at Everton on the Tuesday, the survival battle was down to two. A day later Oldham beat a feeble Liverpool 3-2 at Boundary Park, while Palace drew 0-0 at Manchester City - ostensibly a decent result, but one which left Palace, who four days earlier had done a lap of honour after their last home game on the assumption of safety, horribly exposed to a final-day sting. If Oldham won and Palace lost, Oldham were safe and Palace were down. On the final day Palace, away at Arsenal, were never in the game and lost 3-0, but Oldham's home match against Southampton oscillated wildly: despite a Matthew Le Tissier hat-trick, Oldham squeaked home 4-3.

Edited by Therealeaglestilidie (11 Apr 2021 9.41pm)

Yup remember that one. Horrible.

 

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Originally posted by Therealeaglestilidie

Oldham, Premier League, 1992-93

It's one thing to overturn an eight-point gap to avoid relegation; quite another to do so in the final week of the season. Joe Royle's Oldham had to win three games in seven days and hope either Crystal Palace or Sheffield United made a horlicks of their last two fixtures. The problem was that the first of those three games was away to Aston Villa, who had to win to keep their title challenge alive. On the face of it they had no chance, but Oldham handled the end-of-season pressure/need equation better than Villa and a goal from Nick Henry put the cat among the pigeons. The problem was that, because Henry's goal gave Manchester United their first title for 26 years, its real significance was lost. Indeed, Palace's Geoff Thomas would later say that the relegation battle crept up on them from nowhere.

When a resurgent Sheffield United did the necessary at Everton on the Tuesday, the survival battle was down to two. A day later Oldham beat a feeble Liverpool 3-2 at Boundary Park, while Palace drew 0-0 at Manchester City - ostensibly a decent result, but one which left Palace, who four days earlier had done a lap of honour after their last home game on the assumption of safety, horribly exposed to a final-day sting. If Oldham won and Palace lost, Oldham were safe and Palace were down. On the final day Palace, away at Arsenal, were never in the game and lost 3-0, but Oldham's home match against Southampton oscillated wildly: despite a Matthew Le Tissier hat-trick, Oldham squeaked home 4-3.

Edited by Therealeaglestilidie (11 Apr 2021 9.41pm)

I've got PTSD.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Apr 21 10.33pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I've got PTSD.

I had a drink myself.

 

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View fish mitten's Profile fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 11 Apr 21 10.40pm Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

Only this time around we need Southampton (who are in free fall), Burnley (also doing badly), Brighton and Newcastle to go on runs as well as Fulham (4 defeats in 5) or WBA (needing to win most games) to go on a run to overhaul us.
I can remember Oldham. God it hurts, because I think if we stayed up we may well have been comfortable for a few more years.
This year, I suspect we already have more than enough points. I think Newcastle winning today and Fulham are basically down. May play pretty football but itís ineffectual and I canít see them getting more than 33 points.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 21 10.54pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by fish mitten

Only this time around we need Southampton (who are in free fall), Burnley (also doing badly), Brighton and Newcastle to go on runs as well as Fulham (4 defeats in 5) or WBA (needing to win most games) to go on a run to overhaul us.
I can remember Oldham. God it hurts, because I think if we stayed up we may well have been comfortable for a few more years.
This year, I suspect we already have more than enough points. I think Newcastle winning today and Fulham are basically down. May play pretty football but itís ineffectual and I canít see them getting more than 33 points.

WBA would need to win 6 out of 8 to overhaul our current points tally of 38.Or win 5 and draw 3 games.
At least 5 wins required.
Their remaining fixtures :
H : Southampton
A : Leicester
A : A.Villa
H : Wolves
A : Arsenal
H : Liverpool
H : W.Ham
A : Leeds

Fulham would need to win 4 of their remaining 6 games to reach 38 pts.Or 3 wins and 3 draws.
At least 3 wins required.
Their remaining fixtures :
A : Arsenal
A : Chelsea
H : Burnley
A : Southampton
A : Man Utd
H : Newcastle


Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2021 10.56pm)

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Apr 21 10.58pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I had a drink myself.

I never need that much of an excuse.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I never need that much of an excuse.

No; the excuses are for afterwards.

 

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One thing is certain.
Sheffield United CAN'T catch us after losing to Arsenal - 1 down 2 to go!

 

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And being realistic highly unlikely either of these will happen, probably as much chance of winning the lottery as both of them doing it. Even if one does then Newcastle, Brighton, Burnley and Southampton all also have to overtake us.

We are pathetic and useless some games (like yesterday) but i think weíll scrape to 42 points or so. And Iím a bit of a pessimist. I still doubt either Fulham or WBA will get beyond 34 points this year.

Thanks for the info Willo. Looking at their remaining fixtures confirms that for me.

Originally posted by Willo

WBA would need to win 6 out of 8 to overhaul our current points tally of 38.Or win 5 and draw 3 games.
At least 5 wins required.
Their remaining fixtures :
H : Southampton
A : Leicester
A : A.Villa
H : Wolves
A : Arsenal
H : Liverpool
H : W.Ham
A : Leeds

Fulham would need to win 4 of their remaining 6 games to reach 38 pts.Or 3 wins and 3 draws.
At least 3 wins required.
Their remaining fixtures :
A : Arsenal
A : Chelsea
H : Burnley
A : Southampton
A : Man Utd
H : Newcastle


Edited by Willo (11 Apr 2021 10.56pm)

 

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Iím not even remotely worried. Havenít been for weeks. We are so safe.

 

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No comparison to the Oldham season and there are too many below us even if we lose our remaining fixtures plus no Grobelaars in goal for our rival's remaining fixtures.

 


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