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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 21 11.34pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Nor me. And to be fair, I wouldn't hugely begrudge it either. Schluppy's an important cog for us and has assisted in his last two outings.

Maybe Mr Hodgson views Eze as a "Luxury player".

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 12 Apr 21 11.26am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


and you're assuming that Benteke and Hodgson won't be offered extensions (or won't accept them if offered).

Benteke has now scored 3 in the last 7 games (as many as the rest of the team put together over that period). He seems to be gaining a bit of confidence and I expect Hodgson will continue to start him during the rest of the campaign whenever he can. It would not surprise me if he's offered a new contract on reduced terms. Whether he accepts those terms is, of course, a different matter.

Sorry to disagree but Benteke is just not good enough for this league, he lacks pace vision and anticipation, on Saturday he spent a large part of the game just jogging around in the centre of the pitch keeping as far as way from any physical contact as possible, he fails to press opposition off the ball or to create space for others using his physical presence when we are attacking, he has no vision on where the ball may end when it come in to the box and instead is static waiting for the ball to come to him, he states are appalling 25 appearance with an average of 0.28 goals per game and one assist out of all those appearances. We surely do not want another season paying his reported 120K/per week or 6.240MIL per year + add ons. No wonder Klopp off loaded him and now we need to do the same!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Apr 21 11.42am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Sorry to disagree but Benteke is just not good enough for this league, he lacks pace vision and anticipation, on Saturday he spent a large part of the game just jogging around in the centre of the pitch keeping as far as way from any physical contact as possible, he fails to press opposition off the ball or to create space for others using his physical presence when we are attacking, he has no vision on where the ball may end when it come in to the box and instead is static waiting for the ball to come to him, he states are appalling 25 appearance with an average of 0.28 goals per game and one assist out of all those appearances. We surely do not want another season paying his reported 120K/per week or 6.240MIL per year + add ons. No wonder Klopp off loaded him and now we need to do the same!

In other teams he will do well but I would prefer to have 2 mobile hard working attackers.

 


One more point

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 12 Apr 21 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Sorry to disagree but Benteke is just not good enough for this league, he lacks pace vision and anticipation, on Saturday he spent a large part of the game just jogging around in the centre of the pitch keeping as far as way from any physical contact as possible, he fails to press opposition off the ball or to create space for others using his physical presence when we are attacking, he has no vision on where the ball may end when it come in to the box and instead is static waiting for the ball to come to him, he states are appalling 25 appearance with an average of 0.28 goals per game and one assist out of all those appearances. We surely do not want another season paying his reported 120K/per week or 6.240MIL per year + add ons. No wonder Klopp off loaded him and now we need to do the same!

Clever enough to offload Sakho too. But, I agree with you Den, Benteke lacks any kind of vision and movement.

The best thing he's done in all his time here is score 'that goal' against Brighton.

 

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jeeagles Flag 12 Apr 21 1.53pm

Originally posted by doombear


and you're assuming that Benteke and Hodgson won't be offered extensions (or won't accept them if offered).

Benteke has now scored 3 in the last 7 games (as many as the rest of the team put together over that period). He seems to be gaining a bit of confidence and I expect Hodgson will continue to start him during the rest of the campaign whenever he can. It would not surprise me if he's offered a new contract on reduced terms. Whether he accepts those terms is, of course, a different matter.

I'd like to see a cross per goal ratio.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 12 Apr 21 4.19pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Sorry to disagree but Benteke is just not good enough for this league, he lacks pace vision and anticipation, on Saturday he spent a large part of the game just jogging around in the centre of the pitch keeping as far as way from any physical contact as possible, he fails to press opposition off the ball or to create space for others using his physical presence when we are attacking, he has no vision on where the ball may end when it come in to the box and instead is static waiting for the ball to come to him, he states are appalling 25 appearance with an average of 0.28 goals per game and one assist out of all those appearances. We surely do not want another season paying his reported 120K/per week or 6.240MIL per year + add ons. No wonder Klopp off loaded him and now we need to do the same!


I agree he's lazy when it comes to moving and trying to press and lacks vision etc. and we need an upgrade (however, I doubt we can afford one).

His stats are actually 6 goals and 1 assist in 15 STARTS and 9 subs (most of which were less than 15 mins - in fact 4 of them were less than 10 mins - we know how late Hodgson tends to leave these things). 5 of his goals have come in the 15 matches he started so a 1 in 3 hit rate - not brilliant by any means but not "appalling". If he kept that rate up over a whole season he'd end up with 12/13 league goals- again not brilliant but not appalling either.

I am hoping that Mateta will prove to be an upgrade once he's given a run in the side but it's far from certain he will be. I just think that the club will decide to keep Benteke on reduced wages (if he agrees to stay).

Edited by doombear (12 Apr 2021 4.22pm)

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 12 Apr 21 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Clever enough to offload Sakho too. But, I agree with you Den, Benteke lacks any kind of vision and movement.

The best thing he's done in all his time here is score 'that goal' against Brighton.

Yep, its so long since I've seen him that I had forgotten
about him, Klopp + Pardew really stitched up Parish with these two!

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Cambs 12 Apr 21 5.00pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I'd like to see a cross per goal ratio.

I think his last few goals for us have pretty much come from the only cross of the game .. why not jog around if you know there is zero service .. the guy is pretty much a one trick poney .. he can head a ball .. so fffs Roy play wingers where they are supposed to play like Wilf on the right , Schupp or Townsend on the left with Eze behind Tekkers and Ayew up front ... 3-4-1-2

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 Apr 21 5.09pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


I agree he's lazy when it comes to moving and trying to press and lacks vision etc. and we need an upgrade (however, I doubt we can afford one).

His stats are actually 6 goals and 1 assist in 15 STARTS and 9 subs (most of which were less than 15 mins - in fact 4 of them were less than 10 mins - we know how late Hodgson tends to leave these things). 5 of his goals have come in the 15 matches he started so a 1 in 3 hit rate - not brilliant by any means but not "appalling". If he kept that rate up over a whole season he'd end up with 12/13 league goals- again not brilliant but not appalling either.

I am hoping that Mateta will prove to be an upgrade once he's given a run in the side but it's far from certain he will be. I just think that the club will decide to keep Benteke on reduced wages (if he agrees to stay).

Edited by doombear (12 Apr 2021 4.22pm)

When you put it that way............

 

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Originally posted by kev64

I think his last few goals for us have pretty much come from the only cross of the game .. why not jog around if you know there is zero service .. the guy is pretty much a one trick poney .. he can head a ball .. so fffs Roy play wingers where they are supposed to play like Wilf on the right , Schupp or Townsend on the left with Eze behind Tekkers and Ayew up front ... 3-4-1-2

Totally agree.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 12 Apr 21 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I'd like to see a cross per goal ratio.

crosses to goals ratio is just a tad over 13 crosses per goal. Total crosses are 432 which is 19th out of 20 in PL, compared to Spurs who are 20th with 411 crosses and score every 7.9 times the ball comes over!

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 12 Apr 21 11.32pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Thanks for clarifying there is no commitment as such, but there is an option. Thanks Willo

Originally posted by Willo

My understanding is that Matete is on an 18 month loan for a fee of 2.7 Mill with an option to buy for a further 13.4 mill after 15 starts.

 


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