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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Apr 21 11.00am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Hopefully justice at last for the sub-postmasters, many who have had their lives ruined by the post office.

Just breaking that 39 have had their convictions quashed.

The post office computer system, Horizon, falsely reported short-falls in their takings.

The behaviour of the post office, they must have known this despite what they did to these people.

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 23 Apr 21 11.39am Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Hopefully justice at last for the sub-postmasters, many who have had their lives ruined by the post office.

Just breaking that 39 have had their convictions quashed.

The post office computer system, Horizon, falsely reported short-falls in their takings.

The behaviour of the post office, they must have known this despite what they did to these people.


Computer says 'No'

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 23 Apr 21 11.55am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

I heard about this on the radio about a couple of years ago. I can't imagine what it's been like to live with this hanging over you for so long, and a few have not lived to see this verdict.

Absolutely shameful cover up and it would be wonderful if those responsible were somehow put through similar feelings by a case being brought against them.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 23 Apr 21 2.35pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

I heard about this on the radio about a couple of years ago. I can't imagine what it's been like to live with this hanging over you for so long, and a few have not lived to see this verdict.

Absolutely shameful cover up and it would be wonderful if those responsible were somehow put through similar feelings by a case being brought against them.

Indeed! For 40 odd postmasters to all suddenly start taking the spoils, even though it would trace back to them, seemed an obvious error, but charging them and ruining them, financially or through prison, was unbelievable. The fact that gov.uk didn"t intervene to an obvious cock up , sadly, doesn"t suprise me, they probably welcomed the news distraction so they could get their hands full!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 23 Apr 21 2.47pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Indeed! For 40 odd postmasters to all suddenly start taking the spoils, even though it would trace back to them, seemed an obvious error, but charging them and ruining them, financially or through prison, was unbelievable. The fact that gov.uk didn"t intervene to an obvious cock up , sadly, doesn"t suprise me, they probably welcomed the news distraction so they could get their hands full!

Just read there were something like 700 cases! Should have rung alarm bells somewhere, unbelievable. Unfortunately those responsible will have long retired on nice pensions no doubt
CP why bring the govt into this? Solely down to the PO, who are a private company are they not? Happy to told Iím wrong

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 23 Apr 21 3.02pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Just read there were something like 700 cases! Should have rung alarm bells somewhere, unbelievable. Unfortunately those responsible will have long retired on nice pensions no doubt
CP why bring the govt into this? Solely down to the PO, who are a private company are they not? Happy to told Iím wrong

Lots of cases there spider, and some have passed away with guilty verdicts and prison sentances over their heads, and getting another job after that isn"t easy. Only mentioned gov.uk, as it was such an obvious error by the post office, you would imagine someone at the top of the tree, ie gov.uk, could have started an inquiry, enough for the post office to investigate and come to the huge error judgement.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Apr 21 3.12pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Being sorry is not enough.

This was malicious prosecution, the PO knew full well their system was at fault, and pursued these people in that knowledge.

Let them pay in the same way as they meted out to others.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 23 Apr 21 3.16pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Just read there were something like 700 cases! Should have rung alarm bells somewhere, unbelievable. Unfortunately those responsible will have long retired on nice pensions no doubt
CP why bring the govt into this? Solely down to the PO, who are a private company are they not? Happy to told Iím wrong

When this 1st surfaced & the PO started prosecuting these Sub=Postmasters in 2000, the Govt of the day was . . . Labour. PM Tony 'treasonous' Blair. Followed by in 2007 Gordon Brown. Just saying.

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 23 Apr 21 3.19pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Being sorry is not enough.

This was malicious prosecution, the PO knew full well their system was at fault, and pursued these people in that knowledge.

Let them pay in the same way as they meted out to others.


Yes, mucho compo is the only thing that will suffice, an apologetic letter from the post office chief will not suffice! On a different note, sending a parcel by post is fcukin expensive, sent a £1 box of sweets , slim box size of an envelope, light weight, to Essex from Croydon the other week, cost me £3.80 to send standard! That needs investigating too!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 23 Apr 21 4.09pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


Yes, mucho compo is the only thing that will suffice, an apologetic letter from the post office chief will not suffice! On a different note, sending a parcel by post is fcukin expensive, sent a £1 box of sweets , slim box size of an envelope, light weight, to Essex from Croydon the other week, cost me £3.80 to send standard! That needs investigating too!

I thought you had been warned off sending sweets to people! Wasnít DanH was it? I agree postage is outrageous. I also agree large compensation payouts are due, 1 poor Sikh guy spent over 3 years in prison and a woman was imprisoned when pregnant, really couldnít make this up. Unfortunately any compensation payouts will ultimately be added to your postage. Cheaper to deliver personally

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Apr 21 4.47pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

In addition to quashing the sentences, the Court of Appeal also ruled that the 39 convictions were also "an affront to the public conscience".

That, I believe, opens the door to malicious prosecution.

Nothing really compensates for what these people have gone through, however.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Apr 21 5.49pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Makes you wonder about the Post Officeís auditing process as well.
There is a risk with spreadsheets generally that everyone accepts the results without question; if there has been an error, either human or IT caused, it can be very difficult to spot.

 

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