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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Apr 21 11.41pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

This is a club issue and not a Roy issue. For me, the manager has to work with the recruitment team to play the system the manager wants to play. The recruitment team cannot be going off doing its own thing.

Royís number one objective is to keep the club in the league. He has passed with flying colours.

But the recruitment policy is way off for me. We spent 26m odd on Sakho for Frank de Boar. Sakho was never a FdB signing. Forced upon by the board because he had done well on loan.

We then spent on Camerasa, 1.5m loan fee plus 3.5m in wages
Max Meyer 15m in wages plus signing on fee
Batshuayi 6m in wages plus loan fee
Matata 2m in wages, 18 month loan

Regardless of who the manager is, if you sign players that they do not fancy then itís unlikely going to be an good investment.

You might have seen on SKY today Carragher praising Leicester for their recruitment, finding players to replace the likes of Maguire,Mahrez, Drinkwater, Chilwell.They reported that the 'Net Spend' whilst Brendan Rodgers has been at the club (Since Feb 2019) has been a mere £9 Mill.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Apr 21 11.59pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

If he stays I will not be attending

Same. Iíve been saying it for a while. Thankfully this season wasnít possible. Just nothing of interest to watch.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 Apr 21 12.06am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

You might have seen on SKY today Carragher praising Leicester for their recruitment, finding players to replace the likes of Maguire,Mahrez, Drinkwater, Chilwell.They reported that the 'Net Spend' whilst Brendan Rodgers has been at the club (Since Feb 2019) has been a mere £9 Mill.

Yeah well they have been selling their players for fortunes to help net spend figures. They have signed several unproven players in this league or level, but they werenít cheap

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Apr 21 12.23am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yeah well they have been selling their players for fortunes to help net spend figures. They have signed several unproven players in this league or level, but they werenít cheap

A player they did sign who was cheap was James Justin who I think was acquired for £6 Mill from Luton.

I recall meeting a Luton supporter on holiday and I was singing the praises of Justin when he was still at the club,having seen him play, indeed I lavished praise on him in this country to certain people.

Justin can play in both full-back positions and he played a lot of games for Luton at left-back even though he is right-footed.He has even played in a midfield 'Diamond'.I wish we had bought him !!

 

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View manwitheagletattoo's Profile manwitheagletattoo Flag Somewhere in England 27 Apr 21 6.43am Send a Private Message to manwitheagletattoo Add manwitheagletattoo as a friend

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

This is a club issue and not a Roy issue. For me, the manager has to work with the recruitment team to play the system the manager wants to play. The recruitment team cannot be going off doing its own thing.

Royís number one objective is to keep the club in the league. He has passed with flying colours.

But the recruitment policy is way off for me. We spent 26m odd on Sakho for Frank de Boar. Sakho was never a FdB signing. Forced upon by the board because he had done well on loan.

We then spent on Camerasa, 1.5m loan fee plus 3.5m in wages
Max Meyer 15m in wages plus signing on fee
Batshuayi 6m in wages plus loan fee
Matata 2m in wages, 18 month loan

Regardless of who the manager is, if you sign players that they do not fancy then itís unlikely going to be an good investment.


I really donít agree with that, so are you saying that the club ? watch the training and matches then tells Roy who to pick and who not to pick if that is the case what is Roy doing here, why have a manager at all This is not a club issue itís Roy issue itís Roy who picks the the starting 11 and subs. Its Roy and his staff that take training and Roy who has the final says in who plays who doesnít. Even if we had everyone fit and still had Meyer and everyone you have mentioned on the books It would still be the same starting eleven and basically the same tactics and the same subs tactics.
Yes I agree that Royís job is to keep this club in the Premiership, but as Roy has said it is Dougieís job to bring in the players not mine. So is there no communication between Freedman and Hodgson, is it Freedman who is basically saying I pick the players who come in and you have to work with them like it or not. Or is it someone higher up in the club that gives Freedman a list of players.

Everybody associated with this club from the supporters to management have only been to aware that we have been short in the striker position and we have been crying out for a decent striker for ages. We bought in Alexander Sorloth I believe on Royís recommendation and what a turnip he turn out to be.Yes he had a very good season on loan and everyone was questioning if the club had made a mistake, but once again he has bombed and playing now as a main substitute.
Mateta and Bats have been bought into this club on high fees as you have mentioned and basically what are they doing ! Flip all in my opinion two good strikers sitting like book ends on the bench when we have the likes of Ayew and Benteke being picked and playing week in week out. Now that is down to the manager no one else.

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 27 Apr 21 8.43am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

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All of the time.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 27 Apr 21 8.52am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

This is a club issue and not a Roy issue. For me, the manager has to work with the recruitment team to play the system the manager wants to play. The recruitment team cannot be going off doing its own thing.

Royís number one objective is to keep the club in the league. He has passed with flying colours.

But the recruitment policy is way off for me. We spent 26m odd on Sakho for Frank de Boar. Sakho was never a FdB signing. Forced upon by the board because he had done well on loan.

We then spent on Camerasa, 1.5m loan fee plus 3.5m in wages
Max Meyer 15m in wages plus signing on fee
Batshuayi 6m in wages plus loan fee
Matata 2m in wages, 18 month loan

Regardless of who the manager is, if you sign players that they do not fancy then itís unlikely going to be an good investment.


This is a major point that clearly needs addressing. Itís not like one or two signings. There has to be harmony with the team selector and the buyer of players. Iím never one to challenge the manager selection. But this is ridiculous.

 

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View A89M's Profile A89M Flag Streatham 27 Apr 21 9.01am Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

So Roy keeps us up (which is his remit btw) using the players he feels are best for that job, he does this with many games to spare and it's ridiculous that he's not using the players on the bench more?...


Edited by A89M (27 Apr 2021 9.02am)

 

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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 27 Apr 21 9.09am Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Originally posted by A89M

So Roy keeps us up (which is his remit btw) using the players he feels are best for that job, he does this with many games to spare and it's ridiculous that he's not using the players on the bench more?...


Edited by A89M (27 Apr 2021 9.02am)

He has kept us up. That we are 11 points above the zone is also due to our having played most of the bottom half teams twice already, coupled with a very poor bottom three teams making life a lot easier at this stage than in most seasons. Letís see how far up the table we are after 38 games

 


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View Eaglehamster's Profile Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 27 Apr 21 9.35am Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Another season like this? I know for some of you this is our most successful period in our history. Does it have to be so depressing?

I know this argument has been going on for ages but is Roy the ONLY hope we have of staying in the PL?
If he is, then God help us.

 


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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 27 Apr 21 6.56pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

When we finally go down and we will, the only thing we will have gained from our PL tenure w the academy. SP will still be a sh*thole and we will be back to square one. Our natural position in the football food chain is the Championship anyway

 

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View CharlesPaterson's Profile CharlesPaterson Flag 28 Apr 21 1.42am Send a Private Message to CharlesPaterson Add CharlesPaterson as a friend

It's like a slow death watching the same old players do the same old stuff week in week out.

Roy is sucking the life out of the club.

I can't see how we'll ever fill the stadium if he stays any longer

 

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