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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 28 Apr 21 5.37pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Pardew's win ratio was 40%.

I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 28 Apr 21 5.46pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though.

If only Palace losses were rationed!

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

He's not been here 8 years yet.

Thank you AS. You're right of course, don't know what I was thinking. Must have been the funny mushrooms I had for lunch.

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 28 Apr 21 7.11pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

funny what points stats can prove.

i tend to look at the table over 38 games...thats the most telling.

if i was to use stats i would compare our net spend against the other clubs in the league (that revolves around money spent)

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Apr 21 7.19pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Win ratios can be deceptive. This season, Hodgson's win ratio in the league is 31.25%. The same number of points (38 pts)can be attained with win ratios of 37.5% (12 wins and 2 draws) and 9.375% (3 wins and 29 draws and NO defeats).

A far more accurate measurement is points per game. I'll leave others to work them one out. I just wanted to show how meanngless win ratios can be. A classic example from the old days is our Division 2 league title win in 1978/79 when we had a win ratio of 45.24% (w 19 D 19 and L4). We would ahve attained the same points tally (57) with 28 wins 1 draw and 13 defeats = a win ratio of 66.67%.


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Originally posted by doombear

Win ratios can be deceptive. This season, Hodgson's win ratio in the league is 31.25%. The same number of points (38 pts)can be attained with win ratios of 37.5% (12 wins and 2 draws) and 9.375% (3 wins and 29 draws and NO defeats).

A far more accurate measurement is points per game. I'll leave others to work them one out. I just wanted to show how meanngless win ratios can be. A classic example from the old days is our Division 2 league title win in 1978/79 when we had a win ratio of 45.24% (w 19 D 19 and L4). We would ahve attained the same points tally (57) with 28 wins 1 draw and 13 defeats = a win ratio of 66.67%.


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And we went on to be the team of the 80s.....

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 28 Apr 21 8.32pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though.

This whole thread isn't the strongest of arguments to use against Roy as all managers has faced different situations.

That said. I think Pardew has a worse starting point, and a 40% win would equate to around 45 points, and 33% would be 39ish.

 

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Originally posted by CharlesPaterson

Mullery 32% - sacked
Taylor 35% - sacked
Francis 36% - sacked

After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio

Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team)

1.23 points per games/47 points per season in the Premier League. Excellent statistics. As much as I want Roy to go because I’m bored to death, it’s stats like this which will keep him in the job for another season.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 28 Apr 21 8.50pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by CharlesPaterson

Mullery 32% - sacked
Taylor 35% - sacked
Francis 36% - sacked

After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio

Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team)

193 points from 156 games is decent over the best part of four seasons in the Premier league especially against the backdrop of a profit in the transfer market.

 

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Originally posted by CharlesPaterson

Mullery 32% - sacked
Taylor 35% - sacked
Francis 36% - sacked

After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio

Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team)

i am not old enough to remember mullery, but certainly remember taylor & francis.

win % are all well & good but you cant compare roy to those wasters.

you may not like his style of football...but respect what he has done in 4 years as what he has done, many would have failed to do.

if you had actually watched francis & taylor teams you would be begging for roy to sign a new contract!

 


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Originally posted by est1905

I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though.

More Hodgson myth making. The numbers are quite close - Pardew around 45% games lost, Hodgson around 43%.

 

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In Pardew's last year we managed 27 points from 37 games.

He had a very good year then a shocking one.

 

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