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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 27 May 21 7.02am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 27 May 21 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Thanks. Doesn't seem rich enough to buy us.

 


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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 29 May 21 8.50am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Every pound we have needs investing in the team . No point having a super stadium in league one .

I do think there should be a height restriction in the main stand though , the seats are not fit for purpose for anyone over 5'2'

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 31 May 21 12.41pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

Every pound we have needs investing in the team . No point having a super stadium in league one .

I do think there should be a height restriction in the main stand though , the seats are not fit for purpose for anyone over 5'2'

Leicester, Southampton, Wolves all invested in their stadiums whilst in the Premiership, went down to league 1, then came back with new owners stronger than ever.

Hull, Brighton, Swansea, Cardiff, Reading, Stoke all invested in their stadiums prior to their relatively recent successful spells in the Premiership.

The team is now as stable in the prem as it ever will be with an aging 26,000 seater stadium. We need to invest.

As for leg room. There's a few people who have questioned Leitch's designs across the country. Whilst attractive there seem to be limited consideration given to function and comfort. At least 3 stadium disasters have occurred at grounds designed by him. Although anyone questioning his designs need to put on a tin hat first.

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 31 May 21 2.13pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Leicester, Southampton, Wolves all invested in their stadiums whilst in the Premiership, went down to league 1, then came back with new owners stronger than ever.

Hull, Brighton, Swansea, Cardiff, Reading, Stoke all invested in their stadiums prior to their relatively recent successful spells in the Premiership.

The team is now as stable in the prem as it ever will be with an aging 26,000 seater stadium. We need to invest.

As for leg room. There's a few people who have questioned Leitch's designs across the country. Whilst attractive there seem to be limited consideration given to function and comfort. At least 3 stadium disasters have occurred at grounds designed by him. Although anyone questioning his designs need to put on a tin hat first.

Investing in the stadium by way of a new stand is fine and relatively easy. However:-
1. Negotiating a sensible price with Sainsbury's for a strip of land.
2. Finding and buying appropriate land in Croydon to build 6 houses.
Points 1 & 2 are proving time consuming and potentially very costly.
Until they are solved the club cannot move on or forwards and start on the stadium plans.
There are also new tougher London Assembley and Council requirements on matchday traffic, parking, residential, transport and stewarding requirements but I am sure the club can easily reach the minimum requirements on these.

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 31 May 21 2.14pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

nvesting in the stadium by way of a new stand is fine and relatively easy. However:-
1. Negotiating a sensible price with Sainsbury's for a strip of land.
2. Finding and buying appropriate land in Croydon to build 6 houses.
Points 1 & 2 are proving time consuming and potentially very costly.
Until they are solved the club cannot move on or forwards and start on the stadium plans.
There are also new tougher London Assembley and Council requirements on matchday traffic, parking, residential, transport and stewarding requirements but I am sure the club can easily reach the minimum requirements on these.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Jun 21 9.52am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Buying the land from Sainsburys and the land for six new houses are obstacles that could have been overcome by now. Something else is up. Reading between the lines of Parish' last interview, I got the impression that he is concerned with taking the plunge and spending 100m with no way to recoup it if we were to get relegated, which at some stage a club our size inevitably will no matter what we do.

If we had a more sellable, valuable squad he might feel we have a cushion in place, but if we had gone down this season then who could we sell to balance the books, let alone offset the cost of the stand?

Whilst the Americans were supposedly here to invest in the infrastructure (and let's not forget that the academy has been built at the cost of tens of millions), they dish out loans, not gifts, and I'd say Parish has gotten the wobbles on taking out such a large loan without enough assets to pay it off.

 

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Buying the land from Sainsburys and the land for six new houses are obstacles that could have been overcome by now. Something else is up. Reading between the lines of Parish' last interview, I got the impression that he is concerned with taking the plunge and spending 100m with no way to recoup it if we were to get relegated, which at some stage a club our size inevitably will no matter what we do.

If we had a more sellable, valuable squad he might feel we have a cushion in place, but if we had gone down this season then who could we sell to balance the books, let alone offset the cost of the stand?

Whilst the Americans were supposedly here to invest in the infrastructure (and let's not forget that the academy has been built at the cost of tens of millions), they dish out loans, not gifts, and I'd say Parish has gotten the wobbles on taking out such a large loan without enough assets to pay it off.

My feeling as well and if correct Parrish is probably right to be cautious considering our financial history.

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Jun 21 12.54pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

My feeling as well and if correct Parrish is probably right to be cautious considering our financial history.

Yes, I certainly wouldn't criticise him for it, though of course, the flip side is that if the stand doesn't go up then the income it will generate doesn't start coming in. This is where the nature of the Americans role is unclear. I would have hoped Parish pinned them down to a commitment to pay for the stand regardless, but perhaps that's not how it works. If they came on board in a more general capacity as joint-owners then I imagine they are looking at the same set of figures as Parish, and have the same concerns about sticking another 100m of their money into the club.

 

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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 01 Jun 21 2.30pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Is this just a warning not to over promise then under deliver?

Personally I have never believed this would be built in my lifetime but that's irrelevant in the grander scheme.

I wish Parish would simply say yes or no rather than making excuses (and they are excuses as there have been far more complex buildings with far greater planning issues completed in half the time.)

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Buying the land from Sainsburys and the land for six new houses are obstacles that could have been overcome by now. Something else is up. Reading between the lines of Parish' last interview, I got the impression that he is concerned with taking the plunge and spending 100m with no way to recoup it if we were to get relegated, which at some stage a club our size inevitably will no matter what we do.

If we had a more sellable, valuable squad he might feel we have a cushion in place, but if we had gone down this season then who could we sell to balance the books, let alone offset the cost of the stand?

Whilst the Americans were supposedly here to invest in the infrastructure (and let's not forget that the academy has been built at the cost of tens of millions), they dish out loans, not gifts, and I'd say Parish has gotten the wobbles on taking out such a large loan without enough assets to pay it off.


Even if they had solved those two issues you mentioned it still wouldn't go ahead other issues are unresolved one of them is the transport links this was something which was flagged up and Palace paid out more money to parties to try resolve this and it resulted in still being rejected.

I said it at the start his numbers never added up he claimed it would be used for events and others things and would only cost this amount which was typical of him smoke & mirrors.

The Americans have done plenty enough people need to stop being so closed minded trying to blame them all the time they put funds in and yes they have given loans which was for transfers something which was clearly stated at the begin they was not going to be involved in.

Everything comes back to SP at the end of the day he needs to go I expect had he not been their we would of had new ownership.

SP since being in Prem has contributed fiance wise 0 yet people will defend him to the end.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


Even if they had solved those two issues you mentioned it still wouldn't go ahead other issues are unresolved one of them is the transport links this was something which was flagged up and Palace paid out more money to parties to try resolve this and it resulted in still being rejected.

I said it at the start his numbers never added up he claimed it would be used for events and others things and would only cost this amount which was typical of him smoke & mirrors.

The Americans have done plenty enough people need to stop being so closed minded trying to blame them all the time they put funds in and yes they have given loans which was for transfers something which was clearly stated at the begin they was not going to be involved in.

Everything comes back to SP at the end of the day he needs to go I expect had he not been their we would of had new ownership.

SP since being in Prem has contributed fiance wise 0 yet people will defend him to the end.

I have said on several occasions I believe we may have lost, good, potential buyers, due to SP possibly not wanting to give up his role ( any new buyers would surely want their own team in). However with regard to the US owners, not sure they have given as much as they could have and I am sure they are keeping more than just one eye on their investment. Maybe the threat of relegation stirred them into investing when BFS was manager. Perhaps they should now look to be investing more, to kick us onto the next level. If we could start challenging for Europe their investment would be worth even more

 

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