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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 31 May 21 10.27am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

According to the papal biographer Austen Ivereigh, the prime minister’s two previous marriages were unlikely to have been recognised in Catholic law, as his former spouses were not Catholic, nor were the weddings Catholic ceremonies. Therefore, a “simple administrative process” was likely to have been used to declare the previous marriages invalid.

He wrote on Twitter: “Boris’s two previous marriages (probably) lacked canonical form, that is, are not recognised in Catholic law. So he (probably) didn’t need an annulment. When the canonical form of marriage has not been observed and the marriage was not later validated in the Church, a simple administrative process is used to declare such marriages invalid in church.”

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 31 May 21 10.38am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

And your point is?

 


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is it 7 kids by 3 baby-mummies ?

not very Oxbridge is he ?

Boris sounds like he should be from our Manor.

 


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Talk about first world threads.

 


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And I guess they'll also tell me that they've paid the compensation for all of their child abuse. More of which is coming out in Canada as we speak. The Catholic Church - righteous guardians of Western morality.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 31 May 21 11.20am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


is it 7 kids by 3 baby-mummies ?

not very Oxbridge is he ?

Boris sounds like he should be from our Manor.

Actually the upper classes can be as feckless as the whitest of trash. It is the middle classes who tend towards the pious. They might make all the right progressive noises about tolerance to those who embrace less than traditional family structures but really, when it boils down to it, the biggest proponents of the nuclear family.

I confess, that stance is far more in line with my own views and I have nothing other than contempt for the likes of Boris who think they can just procreate then move on without living up to the public vows they took but I am pretty staid socially conservative Gammon who believes that 'Traditional Family' lays at the very heart of how successful societies should function. I would even go as far as promoting the notion that adultery should be made a criminal act but concede I am towards the lunatic fringe when it comes to that stance.

And would happily see the term 'b******' once again take on its genuine meaning in our society, with shame attached to that label. But, as I have said, I am Right-Wing Nutter. What is Mapletrees excuse?

 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

According to the papal biographer Austen Ivereigh, the prime minister’s two previous marriages were unlikely to have been recognised in Catholic law, as his former spouses were not Catholic, nor were the weddings Catholic ceremonies. Therefore, a “simple administrative process” was likely to have been used to declare the previous marriages invalid.

He wrote on Twitter: “Boris’s two previous marriages (probably) lacked canonical form, that is, are not recognised in Catholic law. So he (probably) didn’t need an annulment. When the canonical form of marriage has not been observed and the marriage was not later validated in the Church, a simple administrative process is used to declare such marriages invalid in church.”

Does anyone actually give a s*** what the Catholic Church thinks? When they openly condemn the abuse of children, who were supposedly in their care, then maybe they can try to take the moral high ground.
What is the point of this thread? Ah yes just another dig at Boris, what fun some people have on a bank holiday

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 31 May 21 12.39pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

I would even go as far as promoting the notion that adultery should be made a criminal act but concede I am towards the lunatic fringe when it comes to that stance.


how would you enforce that Law ?

i reckon its better like this :
once somebody decides to dispense with their 'fidelity commitments' then it's ok for their spouse to dispense with their 'financial commitments'.

in the current climate only a lunatic man or a loser man would get married. Hence the marriage statistics are going down the Swanny.

Leonardo Di Caprio gets far more sex as a single man, as does any fella near the top of pile.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (31 May 2021 12.47pm)

 


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Originally posted by Matov

Actually the upper classes can be as feckless as the whitest of trash. It is the middle classes who tend towards the pious. They might make all the right progressive noises about tolerance to those who embrace less than traditional family structures but really, when it boils down to it, the biggest proponents of the nuclear family.

I confess, that stance is far more in line with my own views and I have nothing other than contempt for the likes of Boris who think they can just procreate then move on without living up to the public vows they took but I am pretty staid socially conservative Gammon who believes that 'Traditional Family' lays at the very heart of how successful societies should function. I would even go as far as promoting the notion that adultery should be made a criminal act but concede I am towards the lunatic fringe when it comes to that stance.

And would happily see the term 'b******' once again take on its genuine meaning in our society, with shame attached to that label. But, as I have said, I am Right-Wing Nutter. What is Mapletrees excuse?

Though I agree with your sentiment and criticisms I wouldn't wish to make these things a criminal act. Lives can often be complicated for various reasons other than sheer fecklessness.....but we also know that sometimes it is the reason.

Besides it was always wrong to label the child a 'b******' for the behaviour of the parents.

I'm not sorry to see the term lose its power but I am sorry to see the increased damage social liberalism has done to stability within families and most sadly the lives of children, who are always the innocent victims.

A fairer minded social conservatism is the answer.....a re-embracing of the concepts of duty and honour....which social liberalism rode over in its insistence for total service to the individual.


Edited by Stirlingsays (31 May 2021 12.57pm)

 


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Some Catholic priest Mark Drew posted "how did Johnson get married in a catholic church when I can't marry my own parishioners?"

The media picked it up and 2 experts explained. It doesn't make sense to me but apparently it does to the Catholic church which is all that matters so the priest ended up looking like a mean spirited idiot who didn't know his own job.

Then there was some from the Labour Party moaning it was all a Johnson ploy to hide bad news, disgusting etc. In fairness to the Labour Party Starmer sent Johnson a nicely worded congratulations so making those in the party who complained look even more mealy mouthed.

I don't get why prominent people have to be so ungracious, don't like him say nothing.

Anyway why worry they'll be divorced in 5 years.


Edited by Badger11 (31 May 2021 1.01pm)

 


One more point

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I thought one of the points of Catholicism is that it doesn't bend to social trends.

Then, as you grow older and notice more in life, you realise that it doesn't really matter what a law or a rule says.....what matters far more are the people who interpret the law or rules.

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


how would you enforce that Law ?


Edited by PalazioVecchio (31 May 2021 12.47pm)

Always liked the idea of the IS style 'morality' police. Teams of Nuns to patrol the streets, punishing any breaches of the law.

As I said, I am a Right Wing Nutter of the worst kind but, in my defence, acknowledge its probably for the best that people like me never make it to the highest political offices.

Like to think of myself as a kind of ideas man, allowing others to temper my more extreme/purist ideals by way of making them more palatable to the great unwashed.

Nothing wrong with being an extremist, if you can openly acknowledge the fact!

 


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