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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 23 Jun 21 11.13pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Very little of the content is anything I would watch.

2020 surplus £74 million so not costing taxpayer anything.

Might as well sell it off from public ownership

 


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View nobody's Profile nobody Flag sussex 24 Jun 21 10.01am Send a Private Message to nobody Add nobody as a friend

If your figures are correct why not keep it and sell the BBC ?

 

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i'd rather buy some fuel-rods from Chernobyl than buy the BBC

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Jun 21 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

No in answer to the OP.

Governments should not own broadcasters. C4 maybe be making money but there has been times when it hasn't.

Sell it off and give it the freedom to decide what type of broadcaster it wants to be. If they want to be like the Guardian so be it.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 24 Jun 21 12.57pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

No in answer to the OP.

Governments should not own broadcasters. C4 maybe be making money but there has been times when it hasn't.

Sell it off and give it the freedom to decide what type of broadcaster it wants to be. If they want to be like the Guardian so be it.

Remember if they are to be given true freedom they need to be freed from equality act shackles

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Jun 21 1.02pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I can't see any reason for a privatisation, it is no drain on the taxpayer.

C4 was a bright innovation with its excellent news and it is still genuinely different.

Formula 1 among its many coups.

What is the purpose of a privatisation, Jon Snow is leaving that tells you something.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Jun 21 1.05pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I can't see any reason for a privatisation, it is no drain on the taxpayer.

C4 was a bright innovation with its excellent news and it is still genuinely different.

Formula 1 among its many coups.

What is the purpose of a privatisation, Jon Snow is leaving that tells you something.

Well I don't like the idea of state owned broadcasters.

They may not be a drain on the taxpayer at the moment but that may well change so all the better reason to sell it off now whilst it is an attractive proposition.

 


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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 24 Jun 21 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Lest we forget C4 is a Thatcher project that was set up to fund and boost British programming by investing it's profits back into the industry.

Given it continues to have much better output than the likes of ITV and C5, and has produced a healthy surplus in recent years I cannot fathom why it urgently needs to be privatised by the govt.

That is unless you consider how it challenges the current govt, and boy do they not like being held to account!

Any of those on here who truly cannot stand cancel culture should be up in arms...

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Jun 21 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

Lest we forget C4 is a Thatcher project that was set up to fund and boost British programming by investing it's profits back into the industry.

Given it continues to have much better output than the likes of ITV and C5, and has produced a healthy surplus in recent years I cannot fathom why it urgently needs to be privatised by the govt.

That is unless you consider how it challenges the current govt, and boy do they not like being held to account!

Any of those on here who truly cannot stand cancel culture should be up in arms...

Edited by Wilesy01 (24 Jun 2021 1.14pm)

How is it cancel culture its the opposite. C4 would be free to broadcast content as it saw fit as long as it is within OFCOM rules. They would still be free to attack the Tories and would have more freedom than a public broadcaster.

If it is as financially successful as we are led to believe then why would any new owners change the format?

 


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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 24 Jun 21 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

How is it cancel culture its the opposite. C4 would be free to broadcast content as it saw fit as long as it is within OFCOM rules. They would still be free to attack the Tories and would have more freedom than a public broadcaster.

If it is as financially successful as we are led to believe then why would any new owners change the format?

Because a private company would not be obligated to invest it's profits back into British programming, nor would they willingly invest into creating creative hubs outside of London as C4 have done in Leeds and Bristol.

I would also point out that C4 only publishes content, it doesn't actually own it hence selling it off would not raise any significant sum for the govt (saw a figure of around £1bn quoted in the FT)

So why the rush to privatise it?

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Jun 21 1.52pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

Because a private company would not be obligated to invest it's profits back into British programming, nor would they willingly invest into creating creative hubs outside of London as C4 have done in Leeds and Bristol.

I would also point out that C4 only publishes content, it doesn't actually own it hence selling it off would not raise any significant sum for the govt (saw a figure of around £1bn quoted in the FT)

So why the rush to privatise it?

All valid points however I just think the government should not be in this business we no longer own BT or BA etc so I guess it's about how you view pubic ownership.

By the way the sale of C4 has been mooted and discussed at government level for decades so hardly a rush. Are the government's motives suspicious probably but that doesn't mean it should stay in public ownership.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 25 Jun 21 10.28am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

These numbers from Channel 4 accounts so can't vouch for the veracity

Originally posted by HKOwen

Very little of the content is anything I would watch.

2020 surplus £74 million so not costing taxpayer anything.

Might as well sell it off from public ownership

 


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