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Would you rather take Edouard or Nketiah?

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View askyourself's Profile askyourself Flag 29 Aug 21 9.20pm Send a Private Message to askyourself Add askyourself as a friend

Doesn't make Edouard sound like someone I'd like to see play for my Palace:
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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Aug 21 9.55pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by askyourself

Doesn't make Edouard sound like someone I'd like to see play for my Palace:
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Thanks for this. It reinforces my thinking. Edouard is not the kind of person for a club like ours. He's clearly NOT a team player.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Aug 21 10.39pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by askyourself

Doesn't make Edouard sound like someone I'd like to see play for my Palace:
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Missed a sitter today in the old firm game at 0-0.

 

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View pompeyeagle's Profile pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 29 Aug 21 11.11pm Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

Nketiah all day for me. I seriously worry about anyone who plays in the Scottish league because of the lack of quality they come up against most weeks. I know there’s exceptions like Van Dijk but I worry we’ll end up with another Sorloth.

 

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View Chubskip's Profile Chubskip Flag 30 Aug 21 8.26am Send a Private Message to Chubskip Add Chubskip as a friend

Based on his Old Firms game I think stay well clear of Eduardo.

 

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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 30 Aug 21 9.16am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

*************Guaita************
Clyne..Andersom..Guehi..Schlupp

**Gallagher**Hughes**McArhur/Eze

***Olise*****New*****Wilf

Subs Butland, Tomkins, Mitchell, Kouyate, Jairo, Banks, Rak-SaKyi, Mateta.

Ayew and Benkeke Anywhere accept Kabul

This could be an answer to any number of theoretical different squads posted on here.

Olise as right wing? Yes he is versatile but that's the attacking position he has least experience of and he is very very left footed. One thing we would likely see least of is more crosses into the box as he would be forever cutting in.

When did Schlupp last play left back? Truly bizarre selection that in a back 4. Wing back is half possible but even that is a reach.

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 30 Aug 21 9.34am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Edouard is a difficult one. Two years ago, roughly, we would have bitten someone's hand-off to sign him. Since then, it's all gone a bit wrong. His attitude appears to be poor but on the other hand, who knows what's gone on behind the scenes (although whatever has gone on doesn't excuse the way he's handled it)? What I would say is that every player is different; some need to be handled with kid gloves; some need strong management. Some players need a boss who drives them; others can self-motivate. The way Edouard's career has nosedived in the past two years reflects poorly on both Celtic management and on the player himself. Whatever the formula that works for getting the best out of Edouard, Celtic clearly haven't found it. I would say he's got a high ceiling (potentially a very good signing for us) but also a very low floor (potentially a disaster if he isn't happy and history repeats itself).

Nketiah is arguably the kind of striker we need; mobile, nose-for-goal but the worries for me are first that he's a bit lightweight and the Prem is not a division for the faint-hearted and second, "big club" reserves tend to be wildly over-priced plus we shouldn't forget that there's a reason he hasn't really made the breakthrough yet (i.e. he's not been considered good enough). At the moment, the hype exceeds the reality by some distance if Arsenal are asking £20 million for him. While he's a different sort of player to Rhian Brewster, the similarity is the former is another big name, big club reserve whose big club in the end didn't think he was good enough to keep. And on the evidence, Liverpool were right. I don't want to pay millions to find out what Arsenal already know.

If I'm honest, of the two I'd want neither or at least neither would by my first choice. Both of them represent risks; neither is anywhere near a sure-fire thing. If I had to choose, I'd probably lean towards Edouard for three seasons. 1. In Scotland or not, he has been a proven goalscorer and, generally, that's a skill that translates. Also, that is what we need. Nketiah might develop into someone who scores goals; Edouard (at his best) already does. 2. I trust the dressing room at Palace would sort out any attitude issues and I trust that we wouldn't sign him anyway if we didn't feel those could be overcome. 3. He has at least proven something in league football, whatever the league, whereas Nketiah really has not. At best, Nketiah is raw promise.

At the right price, I'd take the gamble on Edouard. For me, the one "must" in any striker we sign, no matter where or which division we sign him from, is that he IS A PROVEN goalscorer. I don't think we have enough depth up front to risk millions on potential.

 


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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 30 Aug 21 10.56am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Well thought out & reasoned Syd -
I barely glance at Scottish football does anyone know what on earth happened to Celtic ?
When Rangers were out of the picture they were all cock a hoop, winning the title 9 times & on about winning 10 titles in a row, at the moment they dont look as though they could find their way home without a guide dog.

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Edouard is a difficult one. Two years ago, roughly, we would have bitten someone's hand-off to sign him. Since then, it's all gone a bit wrong. His attitude appears to be poor but on the other hand, who knows what's gone on behind the scenes (although whatever has gone on doesn't excuse the way he's handled it)? What I would say is that every player is different; some need to be handled with kid gloves; some need strong management. Some players need a boss who drives them; others can self-motivate. The way Edouard's career has nosedived in the past two years reflects poorly on both Celtic management and on the player himself. Whatever the formula that works for getting the best out of Edouard, Celtic clearly haven't found it. I would say he's got a high ceiling (potentially a very good signing for us) but also a very low floor (potentially a disaster if he isn't happy and history repeats itself).

Nketiah is arguably the kind of striker we need; mobile, nose-for-goal but the worries for me are first that he's a bit lightweight and the Prem is not a division for the faint-hearted and second, "big club" reserves tend to be wildly over-priced plus we shouldn't forget that there's a reason he hasn't really made the breakthrough yet (i.e. he's not been considered good enough). At the moment, the hype exceeds the reality by some distance if Arsenal are asking £20 million for him. While he's a different sort of player to Rhian Brewster, the similarity is the former is another big name, big club reserve whose big club in the end didn't think he was good enough to keep. And on the evidence, Liverpool were right. I don't want to pay millions to find out what Arsenal already know.

If I'm honest, of the two I'd want neither or at least neither would by my first choice. Both of them represent risks; neither is anywhere near a sure-fire thing. If I had to choose, I'd probably lean towards Edouard for three seasons. 1. In Scotland or not, he has been a proven goalscorer and, generally, that's a skill that translates. Also, that is what we need. Nketiah might develop into someone who scores goals; Edouard (at his best) already does. 2. I trust the dressing room at Palace would sort out any attitude issues and I trust that we wouldn't sign him anyway if we didn't feel those could be overcome. 3. He has at least proven something in league football, whatever the league, whereas Nketiah really has not. At best, Nketiah is raw promise.

At the right price, I'd take the gamble on Edouard. For me, the one "must" in any striker we sign, no matter where or which division we sign him from, is that he IS A PROVEN goalscorer. I don't think we have enough depth up front to risk millions on potential.

 

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That miss in yesterdays Old Firm game was so Tekkers

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 30 Aug 21 11.13am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

If any then I would think Nketiah might be a better bet, simply due to PV's connection with the Arse.

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 30 Aug 21 11.20am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Yep, Nketiah for me too, if it has to be one or the other.

 


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I’m not overwhelmed at the thought of either, but we do need someone for this position. I’d like to think a lot of this is click bait and we are looking in other places. Whatever, less than two days now to get something done unless we take an unattached .

 

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