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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 14 Oct 21 10.57am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Plenty of experts on here when it comes to naming the Palace squad, so what are you going to do with England now you've got the job? They don't exactly fizz as a cohesive unit do they? Watching them play is rarely an uplifting experience.

To start with you'll obviously drop Kane. But who to replace him with? Do you stick with Grealish or is he over-hyped? Does Rashford fit into your team and what about Foden? Shaw looks good in an England shirt, but do you stick with Pickford in goal?

Southgate tried to pick an attacking formation, but it misfired. So, who fits in your team?

 


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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Plenty of experts on here when it comes to naming the Palace squad, so what are you going to do with England now you've got the job? They don't exactly fizz as a cohesive unit do they? Watching them play is rarely an uplifting experience.

To start with you'll obviously drop Kane. But who to replace him with? Do you stick with Grealish or is he over-hyped? Does Rashford fit into your team and what about Foden? Shaw looks good in an England shirt, but do you stick with Pickford in goal?

Southgate tried to pick an attacking formation, but it misfired. So, who fits in your team?

ITV were alluding to Southgate playing 2 No 8's ie Mount & Foden & how in that the 'experiment' didnt work. Kane is so off form ever since he never got his move to Citeh. Sterling is just a headless chicken running around in circles. So, who would i choose, hmmm.

Pickford
Alexander-Arnold
Stones
Coady
Shaw
Foden
Phillips
Bellingham
Grealish
Calvert-Lewin
Rashford

Subs: Any 5 from 12 remaining squad.

This is just my opinion/selection & i know people will agree/disagree with it, fine. Im just replying to POG's thread.

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 14 Oct 21 12.16pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Potentially an unpopular opinion but the biggest issue for me is Declan Rice.

Really talented defensive player, but cannot make the midfield ‘tick’. He is great out of possession but not great with the ball. He also doesn’t seam to want to take the ball off the CBs and be the one to dictate play.

IMO Jordan Henderson needs to play alongside him to get the midfield working.

 

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View viveasheagle's Profile viveasheagle Flag perth 14 Oct 21 12.34pm Send a Private Message to viveasheagle Add viveasheagle as a friend

My observations of latest game was Kane is totally out of form for both club and country. Hungary manned up Sterling in same way teams target Zaha and rest of team could not create much.
I like Kalvin Phillips and would play him as defensive midfielder and leave Rice out.
Also thought we missed Maguire as he can draw players out of position where as Mings has a limited passing range.
Thought Guehi looked a better option than Mings on current form

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 14 Oct 21 1.28pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

No need for any panic or major changes - this squad reached the final of the last tournament and will be trusted with at least the next one.

Kane, though woefully short of form, is still far and away our best striker - Abraham and Watkins both good players but a clear step down.

Kalvin Phillips was a big miss in midfield and he's probably the person who's done best our of the recent internationals - his absence was really felt. I'd like to see Bellingham get more minutes when one of Rice/Phillips are absent.

Sterling is the one who's starting spot has to be under fire - there's so many options in wide positions, and if he continues to be a squad option at City, hard to imagine one of Foden, Saka, Sancho, Rashford or Greenwood don't creep in front of him for the national team.

Grealish looks like he needs a rest but should be a shoe-in to start.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 14 Oct 21 1.31pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Potentially an unpopular opinion but the biggest issue for me is Declan Rice.

Really talented defensive player, but cannot make the midfield ‘tick’. He is great out of possession but not great with the ball. He also doesn’t seam to want to take the ball off the CBs and be the one to dictate play.

IMO Jordan Henderson needs to play alongside him to get the midfield working.

He's got the most passes into the final third and most carries into the final third of any central midfielder in England so far this season.

Phenomenal player.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 14 Oct 21 2.41pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend


Not sure how Sterling gets minutes in The team. He's been playing crap for ages. that's why he's NOT playing for Citeh atm.
He had a huge impact on the England performance in the Euros but only in the Group stages. By which time many saw him as undroppable. The statistics may show that he was a positive influence on the team (scoring the goal vs Croats & Czechs), but I think that with a different player on the pitch (Grealish was the man at The time...and Probably still is) then our overall performance would have been better.

This england teams got a lot of issues.
GK: Really impressed with Johnstone's cameo in the warm up game. but JP for all his flaws just edges it for me on Experience.

Defence- that actually seems pretty solid. can play 3 or 4 relatively easily
Maguire and Stones with Walker in a 3 or
Maguire and Stones with Shaw and any Of James/AWB/TAA, or any of our 5000 RB's we seem to have in this Country.

Midfield- we start running into Problems.
Rice + Phillips? they were the best thing about the Euros....and Rice only had one good Game (the final....when he was subbed off). Cant' help but think that this pairing is ultimately all too defensive. tough shout, but I'd go Bellingham over Rice.
After this, the rest are glorified attackers, with no fixed position.
Grealish on current form and performances has to be there, but who he plays with??
Foden? another one who hasn't (yet) performed for england.
Sancho? needs an end product.
Mount? just don't know what he brings to the party. anonymous in an England shirt.
Rashford gets in my side all day long. Well, he used to until this School meals thing started. just not the same player atm.
Sterling? see above
Then there's the Striker Conundrum.
Kane is crap.
DCL is a poacher, does that fit ?
Greenwood? would love him to be the guy.
Ings - a Lot of time for Ings, natural finisher.
we need Alan shearer or Ian Wright. what we've got don't come close.

So Id' go with

Pickford
TAA -- Stones -- Maguire -- Shaw
-----Phillips
--------------Bellingham
Grealish -- Foden -- Greenwood
------------Ings

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 14 Oct 21 4.55pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger


Not sure how Sterling gets minutes in The team. He's been playing crap for ages. that's why he's NOT playing for Citeh atm.
He had a huge impact on the England performance in the Euros but only in the Group stages. By which time many saw him as undroppable. The statistics may show that he was a positive influence on the team (scoring the goal vs Croats & Czechs), but I think that with a different player on the pitch (Grealish was the man at The time...and Probably still is) then our overall performance would have been better.

This england teams got a lot of issues.
GK: Really impressed with Johnstone's cameo in the warm up game. but JP for all his flaws just edges it for me on Experience.

Defence- that actually seems pretty solid. can play 3 or 4 relatively easily
Maguire and Stones with Walker in a 3 or
Maguire and Stones with Shaw and any Of James/AWB/TAA, or any of our 5000 RB's we seem to have in this Country.

Midfield- we start running into Problems.
Rice + Phillips? they were the best thing about the Euros....and Rice only had one good Game (the final....when he was subbed off). Cant' help but think that this pairing is ultimately all too defensive. tough shout, but I'd go Bellingham over Rice.
After this, the rest are glorified attackers, with no fixed position.
Grealish on current form and performances has to be there, but who he plays with??
Foden? another one who hasn't (yet) performed for england.
Sancho? needs an end product.
Mount? just don't know what he brings to the party. anonymous in an England shirt.
Rashford gets in my side all day long. Well, he used to until this School meals thing started. just not the same player atm.
Sterling? see above
Then there's the Striker Conundrum.
Kane is crap.
DCL is a poacher, does that fit ?
Greenwood? would love him to be the guy.
Ings - a Lot of time for Ings, natural finisher.
we need Alan shearer or Ian Wright. what we've got don't come close.

So Id' go with

Pickford
TAA -- Stones -- Maguire -- Shaw
-----Phillips
--------------Bellingham
Grealish -- Foden -- Greenwood
------------Ings

Sancho's last 3 seasons:

2018-19: 13 goals, 20 assists
2019-20: 20 goals, 20 assists
2020-21: 16 goals, 20 assists

Bizarre link to free school meals - Rashford hasn't kicked a ball this season due to surgery.

Kane, who has averaged more than a goal every other game across nearly a decade, top scored 3x premier league seasons and a world cup, is certainly not crap. By what measure is Ings better?

 

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literally 4 months ago we got to our 1st major final in over 50 years.

no need to change anything in my eyes…

 


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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 15 Oct 21 10.00am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Sancho's last 3 seasons:

2018-19: 13 goals, 20 assists
2019-20: 20 goals, 20 assists
2020-21: 16 goals, 20 assists

Bizarre link to free school meals - Rashford hasn't kicked a ball this season due to surgery.

Kane, who has averaged more than a goal every other game across nearly a decade, top scored 3x premier league seasons and a world cup, is certainly not crap. By what measure is Ings better?

All Fair points......

For me, Sancho looks lost in the England Team. All promise and no Product. His stats at Dortmund are excellent, I agree with that, but that hasn't transferred to international Performances.
Could do in the future. His performances for ManU are make or break. Could prove to be another Jermaine Pennant!

Yes I know that I shouldn't link the Rashford think with the free School meals, but it seemed to me that it was a bit of A Coincedence that his form dropped as his duties off the pitch increased. though your probably right, it's more likley injury related.

Kane is an enigma. No He's not crap. normally. but he is at the moment. His record speaks for itself, but it feels like he's not that player at the moment. Do we persist? I wouldn't. What else does he bring to the team if it's not Goals/Assists? Ings seems like the most likely alternative to me. Saying that, be interesting what Toney would bring.
If Kane ever gets his mojo back, then he's difficult to leave out.

 

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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

literally 4 months ago we got to our 1st major final in over 50 years.

no need to change anything in my eyes…

We did pretty well in the euros - effectively a home tournament. We had an easy route, but beat everyone to get to the final fairly convincingly using Plan A.
Can't really ask more than that.

It didn't work in the final and GS Stuttered. Hopefully everyone will learn from it and become better next time.
That's no reason to become complacent and ignore the talent coming through. plus there's only so long the likes of Walker and Tripper can continue. One of GS's major successes has been to integrate upcoming talent, this is an evolving process and should continue.

 

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jeeagles Flag 15 Oct 21 11.42am

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

We did pretty well in the euros - effectively a home tournament. We had an easy route, but beat everyone to get to the final fairly convincingly using Plan A.
Can't really ask more than that.

It didn't work in the final and GS Stuttered. Hopefully everyone will learn from it and become better next time.
That's no reason to become complacent and ignore the talent coming through. plus there's only so long the likes of Walker and Tripper can continue. One of GS's major successes has been to integrate upcoming talent, this is an evolving process and should continue.

We beat German and the world Cup finalist on the way to the finals of the Euro's.

I think Denmark only lost one game between the World Cup and the Euro's.

Italy had won something like 30 games in a row and had to take us to penalties.

Not too worried about the Hungary game. They got a fortunate penalty, incidents like that are generally how big teams drop points from time to time.

We should have kept Greelish on though. I thought the rest of the team were too respectful to the opposition, we regularly treat Championship quality international teams like top class European teams. We need to take more risks against poorer sides.

 

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