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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 24 Nov 21 1.09pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

the creditors meeting was organised by the administrator when the CPFC2010 offer (1p in the £) was being made - my typo, but not quite sure what your point is. We were never liquidated BTW, if we were the club would not exist. Bury and Macclesfield Town, as examples, both ceased trading and had to reform as new clubs.

My main point was that the £30m Jordan claims he lost may not have been that much - in the accounts he was listed as a creditor owed £7.8m.

My point is we were one day away from liquidation and there were no other interested parties. There was a HMRC bill of over a million too. You can't exit admin without a Company Voluntary Agreement.

 

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Haven't read Jordan's book so not sure if Agilo proposed a debt for equity swap or alternative when he got into problems but looking at the quoted level of debt: £4.3 million ? Ok, we were in Championship and it was over a decade ago but that seems like small beer in today's big money environment.

He must have thought that level of debt was serviceable and Agilo pulled the plug too cheaply so, no wonder he thought people circling the club had conspired to swoop in and pick him off. I think he has a really interesting take on the business of football. He's paid to lay it on a bit thick at times but the core of how he calls out the bullshine, goldrush fever of modern game is laudable.

 


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Originally posted by Joseph Paxton

Haven't read Jordan's book so not sure if Agilo proposed a debt for equity swap or alternative when he got into problems but looking at the quoted level of debt: £4.3 million ? Ok, we were in Championship and it was over a decade ago but that seems like small beer in today's big money environment.

He must have thought that level of debt was serviceable and Agilo pulled the plug too cheaply so, no wonder he thought people circling the club had conspired to swoop in and pick him off. I think he has a really interesting take on the business of football. He's paid to lay it on a bit thick at times but the core of how he calls out the bullshine, goldrush fever of modern game is laudable.

Agilo will have been aware of a winding up order from the tax man and the possibility of administration plus the unpaid players wages.

 

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Originally posted by chris123

Agilo will have been aware of a winding up order from the tax man and the possibility of administration plus the unpaid players wages.

And?
We all know it still made no financial sense for them to place Palace in administration, guaranteeing instantly that the money they were owed is then only going to be 1 or 2% of that figure coming back. This is why it is speculated upon that they had an ulterior motive for doing this.
Its reasonable to assume so.

 

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Originally posted by est1905

And?
We all know it still made no financial sense for them to place Palace in administration, guaranteeing instantly that the money they were owed is then only going to be 1 or 2% of that figure coming back. This is why it is speculated upon that they had an ulterior motive for doing this.
Its reasonable to assume so.

Well I'm not sure we know what Agilo and CPFC2010 finally accepted re the debt owed prior to reaching agreement with the administrators.

 

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Originally posted by chris123

Well I'm not sure we know what Agilo and CPFC2010 finally accepted re the debt owed prior to reaching agreement with the administrators.

We also do not know what side agreements were in place and what security was offered for the late and.

A creditor may well seek to put a company into Administration as if they do it, that appoint the administrators and thus ensure their interests are best represented.

A lot of this are either tactics or simply an acknowledgment that the cash had run out.

 

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