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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 24 Nov 21 10.24am Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

No he hasn't.

On topic, the problem was defending set pieces. Sort that out and we are competing with the Hammers for that "surprise" challenge for the title.

The set pieces problem may be down to Guaita. He stays on his line and comes for absolutely nothing. There's many times he should have come for crosses but hasn't.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 24 Nov 21 10.44am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

ward doesn't need protection unless we play the top 3, always the problem with Burnley is set pieces, that is why Ayew over Edouard was a bad choice attacking and defensively

Interesting view, that Ward doesn’t need protection. He is the weak link in the team, he has played well for a few games, but opposition teams target him. Both our full backs need protection to stop crosses coming into our box, as that is our problem.

 

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View SharpAl11's Profile SharpAl11 Flag 24 Nov 21 11.22am Send a Private Message to SharpAl11 Add SharpAl11 as a friend

yesterday there was a thread about europe and now 2 anti patrick threads?

 

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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 24 Nov 21 12.12pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

I don't think this is an anti Patrick thread

 

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View dg1937's Profile dg1937 Flag 24 Nov 21 12.43pm Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

The set pieces problem may be down to Guaita. He stays on his line and comes for absolutely nothing. There's many times he should have come for crosses but hasn't.

The goalkeeper and centre backs need to have a shared understanding of who deals with what. A goalkeeper not coming for crosses is less of a problem than a goalkeeper who can't make up his mind whether to come or not. If centre backs know he isn't coming then they know it's their job to deal with it. Obviously a goalkeeper who commands the box is ideal but there aren't many of them around who are also great shot stoppers.

Edited by dg1937 (24 Nov 2021 12.44pm)

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 24 Nov 21 12.59pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by SharpAl11

yesterday there was a thread about europe and now 2 anti patrick threads?

There are no anti Patrick threads.

The other one is a wind-up, and people have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 24 Nov 21 1.22pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by dg1937

The goalkeeper and centre backs need to have a shared understanding of who deals with what. A goalkeeper not coming for crosses is less of a problem than a goalkeeper who can't make up his mind whether to come or not. If centre backs know he isn't coming then they know it's their job to deal with it. Obviously a goalkeeper who commands the box is ideal but there aren't many of them around who are also great shot stoppers.

Edited by dg1937 (24 Nov 2021 12.44pm)

Exactly right.

Pickford is Englands first choice 'keeper and yet he is weak with crosses.

The bottom line is that every team member has a part to play in defending set pieces but some have been found wanting this season.

It's not an insolvable problem and can be worked on in training. It's certainly an area for improvement at the moment.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 24 Nov 21 1.38pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

ward doesn't need protection unless we play the top 3, always the problem with Burnley is set pieces, that is why Ayew over Edouard was a bad choice attacking and defensively

It was a choice forced by injury

 

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