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View n wales eagles's Profile n wales eagles Flag llandudno 13 Dec 21 8.11am Send a Private Message to n wales eagles Add n wales eagles as a friend

A lots been said over our inability to defend set pieces but with the inclusion of tomkins and probable training ground tweaking it seems to be improving.I think that criticism by the football pundits of our defence is slightly unjust as 9 premier league sides have conceded more goals and another two the same so our defence is certainly better than most

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 13 Dec 21 8.21am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Tomkins is getting match fit and is helping us in the air which is a good thing.
On passing, which is his weakness, I noted yesterday that he does it simply and gives the ball to others who can do more with the ball.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 13 Dec 21 10.01am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by n wales eagles

A lots been said over our inability to defend set pieces but with the inclusion of tomkins and probable training ground tweaking it seems to be improving.I think that criticism by the football pundits of our defence is slightly unjust as 9 premier league sides have conceded more goals and another two the same so our defence is certainly better than most

But ironically we defend well at open play but collapse at set pieces... which is where you would expect the training ground to have made us less porous. Get that sorted and we will have an even meaner defence which research proves is the route to success.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 May 22 4.12pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

we let in 46 goals all season.

One of the best defences in the whole league ( outside of the top 4 ).

Three cheers for Butland, Guaita, Mitchell and all the boys.

who are your defensive heroes ?

i would also tip my hat to our attacking players who had the pace and guile to get back and defend at high speed. Ayew deserves a special mention.

And as for General McArthur ? Legend.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 May 2022 4.15pm)

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 24 May 22 4.38pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

we let in 46 goals all season.

One of the best defences in the whole league ( outside of the top 4 ).

Three cheers for Butland, Guaita, Mitchell and all the boys.

who are your defensive heroes ?

i would also tip my hat to our attacking players who had the pace and guile to get back and defend at high speed. Ayew deserves a special mention.

And as for General McArthur ? Legend.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 May 2022 4.15pm)

Is that the McArthur that could barely manage 45 minutes on the pitch at the end of Roy's tenure? The same McArthur that that's looked like a man revitalised under Vieira?
As you say, legend.

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 May 22 6.51pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

WE started the season with a back four that hardly knew each other and finished with a defence that conceded the fewest we've ever conceded in our 13 PL seasons.

Hats off then to Ward, Clyne, Andersen, Guehi and Mitchell for the way they have gelled and enabled us to keep clean sheets in our last FIVE PL home games (not conceded at home in PL since February against Burnley - of all teams).

 

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View rollercoaster's Profile rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 24 May 22 7.35pm Send a Private Message to rollercoaster Add rollercoaster as a friend

I don't think our defensive qualities are our best ones and are not the main reason why we conceded less goals than previous seasons. I think the key has been that we have maintained much higher possession stats and kept the ball away from our box for longer. I think the fact that we continue to concede too many goals from set pieces and concede late goals when under pressure confirm the above.

It is true that our defenders do not concede possession like the old guard did.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 May 22 8.32pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


and of course, our great strength on the defensive end of the pitch ....may have come with the price of our strike-force not scoring as often as Hueng-Son & Mo Salah

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 May 22 11.02pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


and of course, our great strength on the defensive end of the pitch ....may have come with the price of our strike-force not scoring as often as Hueng-Son & Mo Salah


If you include the front 3 in a 433 (and I have done since both Son and Salah are wide players in a 433) then our strike force scored 34 goals in the PL, somewhat more than the two golden boot winners. So I'm not quite sure what your point is in referring to Son and Salah.

Our midfield scored 13 and our defenders a miserly 3 (Guehi 2 and Tomkins 1)

 

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Originally posted by becky

Is that the McArthur that could barely manage 45 minutes on the pitch at the end of Roy's tenure? The same McArthur that that's looked like a man revitalised under Vieira?

Well he has had a good season when he's played. But the fact is that this season is the fewest minutes he has spent on the pitch in league games

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 25 May 22 11.15am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

It is worth saying that our set piece defending improved through the season. Vieira learnt. Important.

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 25 May 22 1.04pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

But ironically we defend well at open play but collapse at set pieces... which is where you would expect the training ground to have made us less porous. Get that sorted and we will have an even meaner defence which research proves is the route to success.

I suspect this is for 2 reasons:

Our defenders are better in open play, where they can watch the game and anticipate vs a massive scramble at seat pieces

Because we hold the ball more, we give away less chances

 

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