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View mars's Profile mars Flag Folkestone 25 Jan 22 9.55am Send a Private Message to mars Add mars as a friend

I like Mateta as the target with Edouard dropping off and Olise wide. May be tough for Wilf to get back in!

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 25 Jan 22 10.55am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Disagree entirely. He only looked okay yesterday because he'd set such a low bar for himself. Whereas CB had previously set such a high bar at Villa and Belgium, we expect him to be world class. He's not world class...but he's a damn sight better than lanky Mateta...imo.

Guess that's the beauty of forums hey.

I couldn't disagree any more strongly to be honest - he looked ok on the weekend because he did ok.. against the best centre half in the country. Made plenty of good runs off the back of him, one of which resulted in our goal. Benteke is completely incapable of making those runs in behind - he has the worst movement I've ever seen for a centre-forward at this level.

I don't know who is expecting Benteke to be world class, but I watch him in hope that he can complete 5 successful passes these days.

 

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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 25 Jan 22 11.09am Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I couldn't disagree any more strongly to be honest - he looked ok on the weekend because he did ok.. against the best centre half in the country. Made plenty of good runs off the back of him, one of which resulted in our goal. Benteke is completely incapable of making those runs in behind - he has the worst movement I've ever seen for a centre-forward at this level.

I don't know who is expecting Benteke to be world class, but I watch him in hope that he can complete 5 successful passes these days.

Yes agree - the more I see of him, the I like his style of play. For a big man, he has some great movement both on and off the ball. He also has a great pass and shot.
100% the right choice to keep and buy him!

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 25 Jan 22 12.59pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I couldn't disagree any more strongly to be honest - he looked ok on the weekend because he did ok.. against the best centre half in the country. Made plenty of good runs off the back of him, one of which resulted in our goal. Benteke is completely incapable of making those runs in behind - he has the worst movement I've ever seen for a centre-forward at this level.

I don't know who is expecting Benteke to be world class, but I watch him in hope that he can complete 5 successful passes these days.

It has always baffled me that we never play the ball over the top, or down the channels. Most likely as historically we haven't made the runs, or had the players to execute the passes. Even Wilf with his pace wants the ball to feet instead of over the top.

A couple of great runs in behind by Mateta and that great chance from Olise. Feels like a dimension we never had before.


 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 25 Jan 22 1.08pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

It has always baffled me that we never play the ball over the top, or down the channels. Most likely as historically we haven't made the runs, or had the players to execute the passes. Even Wilf with his pace wants the ball to feet instead of over the top.

A couple of great runs in behind by Mateta and that great chance from Olise. Feels like a dimension we never had before.

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It's the tactics and personnel. Benteke, when not static is slow. He has held this team up terribly. We can see what can be achieved with movement up front in the form of Mateta and Eduoard. Never existed with Benteke. Also under Roy it was clear that players were stuck with "shape" and not encouraged to venture too far forward, defensive lines dominated tactical thinking.
Under PV we are moving onto a more forward way of playing.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Jan 22 3.41pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

The answer is an emphatic no from me.


What a surprise! Any threat to your beloved Benteke has to be snuffed out.

I'm not sure if Mateta is our future, but I'd like to see him given more game time so he has the opportunity to show us whether or not he is. One thing which is certain is Benteke ISN'T our future.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 25 Jan 22 4.05pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


What a surprise! Any threat to your beloved Benteke has to be snuffed out.

I'm not sure if Mateta is our future, but I'd like to see him given more game time so he has the opportunity to show us whether or not he is. One thing which is certain is Benteke ISN'T our future.

 


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View Palace in the Blood's Profile Palace in the Blood Flag 25 Jan 22 5.20pm Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Mateta still reminds me of Bambi on ice. He has improved a lot in last few games but I am still not convinced. I think we will play our cards very close to our chests. We will not play him enough to trigger the current purchase clause as on current showing it is too high. However We know his parent club want to sell and can't afford to take him back. So I think we may sit back see if he progresses and try and get him for less than the buy out clause possibly around 6 million. As I said on another thread he is an adequate third choice sriker with the possibility of progressing

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 25 Jan 22 5.45pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


What a surprise! Any threat to your beloved Benteke has to be snuffed out.

I'm not sure if Mateta is our future, but I'd like to see him given more game time so he has the opportunity to show us whether or not he is. One thing which is certain is Benteke ISN'T our future.

Nothing to do with my beloved Benteke. Its about Mateta and Mateta alone. If hes the answer the our striking problems moving forward, were in big trouble. Most would agree, so not sure why Im being singled out for ridicule.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Jan 22 7.02pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Nothing to do with my beloved Benteke. Its about Mateta and Mateta alone. If hes the answer the our striking problems moving forward, were in big trouble. Most would agree, so not sure why Im being singled out for ridicule.


Because your love of Benteke is legend and I, and quite a few others, (including it seems PV and his staff) haven't seen enough of Mateta to form an opinion. The fact that he's suddenly getting game time suggests that PV and Co have seen enough in training to think he might be the answer, but clearly, you know better. You may end up being right, of course.

Edited by doombear (25 Jan 2022 7.03pm)

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 25 Jan 22 7.28pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Because your love of Benteke is legend and I, and quite a few others, (including it seems PV and his staff) haven't seen enough of Mateta to form an opinion. The fact that he's suddenly getting game time suggests that PV and Co have seen enough in training to think he might be the answer, but clearly, you know better. You may end up being right, of course.

Edited by doombear (25 Jan 2022 7.03pm)

Okay, okay, whatever. We all know where we stand on the matter. Let's move on. Respect your opinion

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 25 Jan 22 9.38pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Nothing to do with my beloved Benteke. Its about Mateta and Mateta alone. If hes the answer the our striking problems moving forward, were in big trouble. Most would agree, so not sure why Im being singled out for ridicule.

1- Most would not agree. 2- Your such an east target

 


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