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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 08 Feb 22 5.05pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Has anyone had their f***ing Christmas tree collected yet?! Mine has been sat in the front garden for well over a month.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 08 Feb 22 5.26pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Bribery and corruption no surely not. Not the public sector. Croydon? No way. You’re all having a laugh. Planning departments would never veer off the track.
Surely they’re straight, no??

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 08 Feb 22 7.15pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Has anyone had their f***ing Christmas tree collected yet?! Mine has been sat in the front garden for well over a month.

Well pay for a garden waste bin and cut it up.
It's 40 quid a year!
Or burn it or cut it up and put it in your rubbish.
You tart

 

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View crystal-purley's Profile crystal-purley Flag Purley 08 Feb 22 9.44pm Send a Private Message to crystal-purley Add crystal-purley as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Well pay for a garden waste bin and cut it up.
It's 40 quid a year!
Or burn it or cut it up and put it in your rubbish.
You tart

First job of the year, trim the branches then cut the log into size to fit in the chimenea ready for the warm nights.

Chris Philp is our local MP and seems ok but tends to go after some problems. We have lost the pool in Purley it seems whereas other pools in Croydon are being kept, nothing to do with Purley being the wealthy part of the borough obviously. Croydon should be looked into as they seem to have been stitched up by Brick by Brick and also Fairfield Halls and can we afford the costs that that will entail?
The costs that the poorer people in the UK will take on such as the various layers of energy charges and the grocery inflation although it is strange that the papers are not remembering that some parties are not as guilty of this as others.

 


Just retired and almost mastered decorating but haven't learned to garden yet

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View Grumbles's Profile Grumbles 15 Feb 22 12.24pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Dear Sir/Madam,

I enclose below my comments on the Draft Local Plan. I believe it to be "unsound" on the basis that it lacks justification and fails to enshrine the good design principles required by the NPPF.

I am deeply alarmed by the proposals in SP1.0C and DM10.11 to allow for "focused" and "moderate" intensification - entailing building very dense or larger buildings in place of family homes in many peaceful and green suburban parts of the Borough. This will fundamentally change the character of the area. These policies take no account of cumulative effects, which may see whole streets of family houses destroyed. I note that protections around character, size and cumulative effect that exist in the current policy DM10.1-10.8 are to be deleted or substantially watered down. I am deeply concerned and appalled by this and believe it to be inconsistent with the NPPF's provisions about good design, and wholly without justification (see supply points below).

I am concerned about this grotesque "intensification" occurring in Coulsdon (DM37), Kenley (DM40), Purley (DM42), Sanderstead (DM43), Selsdon (DM44), South Croydon (DM46), Waddon (DM49), which are all peaceful suburban areas.

I also believe that the housing targets are simply wrong in the way they are allocated across the Borough. Firstly, the table on page 34 appears to take little or even no account of the council's own 5 year housing land supply (identified in its own most recent monitoring report) of 17,707 dwellings - almost double the 9,153 required.

Secondly, it appears that the Croydon Opportunity Area figure of 14,500 takes inadequate or even no account of the Brighton Mainline or North End Quarter opportunities, which are huge. These would allow the Croydon Town Centre figure (currently 14,500) to be a lot higher.

The target figure for Purley at 5,735 is frankly absurd and would turn a peaceful suburban centre into a small city. This is unnecessary and destructive. The figures for Coulsdon, Kenley, Selsdon and Sanderstead are also inappropriately high as drafted.

Given my foregoing remarks about the fact that Croydon already has around 2x its 5 year land supply and the Brighton Main Line and North End Quarter Opportunity areas are not represented in the figures, both the absurd target for Purely (and other areas) and the shocking wider "intensification" mentioned before are quite simply not justified as necessary to meeting housing targets. There are ample Croydon Town centre and brownfield sites to meet the housing need in Croydon without "intensifying" (i.e. destroying) the suburbs and turning the whole Borough into a highly dense urban area, with no meaningful planning protection.

Moving on, I note that policy DM42.1 is left in, for a 16 storey tower in Purley (where most buildings are 3 floors). This is carried over from the previous local plan, and the building is now (sadly) under construction, so this reference should be removed.

There is also a plan for a Gypsy and Traveller site at the local Purley Oaks recycling centre (site 324, page 677). Is this an error? This is a vital local facility and is in a flood zone. The plan itself earlier prohibits a gypsy and traveller site in a flood zone, so is contradictory.

I am also concerned that the Purley Way Transformation proposals have many blocks of flats up to 8 floors. This is therefore a missed opportunity to create streets of liveable houses, not yet more tower blocks.

Finally, in terms of soundness, in addition to those already mentioned, the draft local plan has a number of shortcomings:
Lack of any evidence of agreements with other neighbouring authorities in terms of unmet need.
Insufficient reliable evidence raises queries as to how justified it is.
Unlikely to be effective as the plan as it stands is not deliverable and is not based on sufficiently evidenced effective cross-boundary strategic matters.
It is not entirely consistent with national policy.
I would like to appear at any public enquiry to make these points and any related ones to the Inspector in person."

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 15 Feb 22 12.47pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Not bad but it should have been addressed..
To you woke, money wasting, stupid, know nothing w***ers.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 16 Feb 22 10.54am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Nice one Grumbles!
Unfortunately most councils take no notice of what their constituents want or need and I suspect that Croydon is worse than most.
They would definitely like to intensify building in "nice suburban areas" because those are the politics of envy.
They will eventually turn the place into a ghetto and pat themselves on the back while taking substantial backhanders from developers and the the like.
A disgraceful Council in every way, shape and form!

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Mar 22 7.52pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Chris Philp, Tory MP Croydon South:

Dear All,

You are probably aware that Croydon's Labour council closed Purley Pool about two years ago and then refused to re-open it, saying that it will stay shut forever.

All the Borough's other leisure facilities re-opened after Covid. To add insult to injury, the Council did not even bother bidding for any of the £100m made available by the Government to reopen leisure facilities in relation to Purley Pool (they did bid for every other leisure centre in Croydon and got money for those; disgracefully, they didn't bother bidding for Purley). This is an appalling situation - Purley Pool is used by 11 local schools who now have to give up swimming lessons or travel much longer distances. Many local charities used the pool, including disabled charities, and for thousands of local residents it provided much-needed exercise facilities in the local area. It also brought football to Purley High Street, helping local shops. The council does not seem to care about any of this.

But there is a solution. Jason Perry, a local Conservative councillor who is also running for Mayor of Croydon, has come up with a funded plan to reopen and refurbish the pool starting immediately. The council's own figures (which we think are much too high) show reopening costs of £3m and Jason has identified this amount of unspent CIL money to fund it.

CIL money is the money paid by developers when they do new developments. This is exactly the kind of thing CIL should be used for. Jason Perry put this idea to the council earlier this week as an amendment to the council's budget - but shockingly Labour used their majority on the council to vote it down. Jason Perry has now pledged that if he is elected as our Mayor on May 5th he will go ahead and implement the plan to reopen the pool immediately. The Labour candidate for Mayor, a lifelong party apparatchik, is following her party line and will not match this commitment from Jason.

This is Labour trying to destroy a Tory voting area. Well it is for now. Purley centre is fast becoming a non white area so they’re destroying it for their own voters too. Actually they’d have already thought about that as all they care about is as many council tax payers.

 


COYP

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Mar 22 10.25pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Chris Philp, Tory MP Croydon South:

Dear All,

You are probably aware that Croydon's Labour council closed Purley Pool about two years ago and then refused to re-open it, saying that it will stay shut forever.

All the Borough's other leisure facilities re-opened after Covid. To add insult to injury, the Council did not even bother bidding for any of the £100m made available by the Government to reopen leisure facilities in relation to Purley Pool (they did bid for every other leisure centre in Croydon and got money for those; disgracefully, they didn't bother bidding for Purley). This is an appalling situation - Purley Pool is used by 11 local schools who now have to give up swimming lessons or travel much longer distances. Many local charities used the pool, including disabled charities, and for thousands of local residents it provided much-needed exercise facilities in the local area. It also brought football to Purley High Street, helping local shops. The council does not seem to care about any of this.

But there is a solution. Jason Perry, a local Conservative councillor who is also running for Mayor of Croydon, has come up with a funded plan to reopen and refurbish the pool starting immediately. The council's own figures (which we think are much too high) show reopening costs of £3m and Jason has identified this amount of unspent CIL money to fund it.

CIL money is the money paid by developers when they do new developments. This is exactly the kind of thing CIL should be used for. Jason Perry put this idea to the council earlier this week as an amendment to the council's budget - but shockingly Labour used their majority on the council to vote it down. Jason Perry has now pledged that if he is elected as our Mayor on May 5th he will go ahead and implement the plan to reopen the pool immediately. The Labour candidate for Mayor, a lifelong party apparatchik, is following her party line and will not match this commitment from Jason.

This is Labour trying to destroy a Tory voting area. Well it is for now. Purley centre is fast becoming a non white area so they’re destroying it for their own voters too. Actually they’d have already thought about that as all they care about is as many council tax payers.

Odious little beggar is Philp. Kind of a junior Raab.

The now defunct Labour council were not only odious but almost certainly crooked

The current Planning and Housing Departments are also both incompetent and crooked

Of the mayoral candidates Jason Perry is nowhere near a strong enough candidate, even with the highly partisan and immoral support he will get from the Government.

He runs the family plastics business and has been on the council for 28 years. He voted for the various disastrous budgets and initiatives that brought it to bankruptcy.

Val Shawcross has done bigger jobs, has history on Croydon council and isn’t tainted by the recent debacle.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Mar 22 10.35pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Odious little beggar is Philp. Kind of a junior Raab.

The now defunct Labour council were not only odious but almost certainly crooked

The current Planning and Housing Departments are also both incompetent and crooked

Of the mayoral candidates Jason Perry is nowhere near a strong enough candidate, even with the highly partisan and immoral support he will get from the Government.

He runs the family plastics business and has been on the council for 28 years. He voted for the various disastrous budgets and initiatives that brought it to bankruptcy.

Val Shawcross has done bigger jobs, has history on Croydon council and isn’t tainted by the recent debacle.

Reads like a good heads up. I just couldn’t vote another labour mayor in after this horror show.

 


COYP

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 13 Mar 22 10.39pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Odious little beggar is Philp. Kind of a junior Raab.

The now defunct Labour council were not only odious but almost certainly crooked

The current Planning and Housing Departments are also both incompetent and crooked

Of the mayoral candidates Jason Perry is nowhere near a strong enough candidate, even with the highly partisan and immoral support he will get from the Government.

He runs the family plastics business and has been on the council for 28 years. He voted for the various disastrous budgets and initiatives that brought it to bankruptcy.

Val Shawcross has done bigger jobs, has history on Croydon council and isn’t tainted by the recent debacle.

So your ideology trumps have the pool re-opened?

 


If untruths and bllshit are allowed to flourish unchallenged the forum will be the worse for it.

Opinions are not facts just because you believe them

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Mar 22 10.56pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

So your ideology trumps have the pool re-opened?

They are both proposing to do this.

And it isn’t ideology to judge the candidates by their histories and CVs. How else would you do it?

Edited by Mapletree (13 Mar 2022 10.57pm)

 

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