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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 23 Jan 22 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

If Sean Dyche was manager instead of Patrick Vieira with the same players would we be higher up the league?

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 23 Jan 22 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

I think I know why you're posing the question, although my first reaction was one of disbelief.

You are suggesting Dyche might instill more resilience and better organisation in dealing with set pieces etc.

Well, I for one would not want Dyche anywhere near Selhurst. And I don't think for one minute that our results would be better. Our transformation under PV has been remarkable in so many ways. We play some lovely football and the team is developing well. Great new, young players coming through and the future looks very bright. Today was tough, but realistically I suspect very few of us expected us to beat them.

So, no, I don't think Dyche would have us any further up the league. I'm firmly behind PV.....for the time being!

 


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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 23 Jan 22 6.43pm Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I think that we would probably have a similar number of points -
(+ / - 3) but the football wouldn't be anywhere near as enjoyable.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 23 Jan 22 6.49pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

If Sean Dyche was manager instead of Patrick Vieira with the same players would we be higher up the league?

When posing such a question you really need to explain why you asked it in the first place and also what is your opinion to the question posed.
In the end it's a moot point, Dyche isn't our manager and won't be.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 23 Jan 22 7.27pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I like Dyche as a manager.
If good management is defined as making the most of resources available then Dyche seems to me to tick the boxes.
We’d maybe have a similar points total if he had joined, although that obviously can’t be proved.
However, I watched the chairman’s interview before the Brighton game and he seems committed to a more progressive style of football which in the long term in his view is more sustainable.
He is of the view if you rely on deep defence and counter attack you’ll eventually get found out and fail.
Personally I welcome the objective and the aspiration which the players and manager we’ve bought in seem to share.
Having said that, I would like us to mix the game up more and we don’t always deal well with teams who press high us high when we’re playing the ball around in our own penalty area.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Online Flag Croydon 23 Jan 22 9.18pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Pointless question.

Dyche isn't our manager and never will be and if he was, he wouldn't of signed the same players.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 23 Jan 22 9.22pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Pointless question.

Dyche isn't our manager and never will be and if he was, he wouldn't of signed the same players.

Quite.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 23 Jan 22 9.30pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

I think if the club done everything fans on here think we should, we would be top on 69 points with a goal difference of 50, Its so simple, dont know why viera just doesn't read the hol.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 23 Jan 22 9.55pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

The reason i asked is are we trying to get to a place and style that is just out of our reach, i find it hard to watch when the keeper rolls it to the CD and then back to the keeper, do we have the players to do that, or is it better to play longer, get the ball wide to olise or Shlupp/wilf and get more crosses in as we have 3 6fo0t plus centre forwards, isn't that playing to our strengths

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 23 Jan 22 9.57pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Fair question, and yeah I think it's certainly feasible that we could have collected one or two more points this season under Dyche, or under Hodgson for that matter. It's equally possible that we'd have the same number of points, or possibly a few less than under Vieira of course. We'll never know.

What I feel certain of is that none of these managers would have got us into Europe (not the posh end anyway) and none of them would have got us relegated. Beyond those two extremes, all that matters is how we play (i.e that watching the team isn't purgatory), and even if the way Vieira plays could somehow be proved to cost us a few points compared to Dyche, I wouldn't change it.

I don't really care where exactly in midtable we finish, so what's a few points between friends?

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 23 Jan 22 10.02pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Fair question, and yeah I think it's certainly feasible that we could have collected one or two more points this season under Dyche, or under Hodgson for that matter. It's equally possible that we'd have the same number of points, or possibly a few less than under Vieira of course. We'll never know.

What I feel certain of is that none of these managers would have got us into Europe (not the posh end anyway) and none of them would have got us relegated. Beyond those two extremes, all that matters is how we play (i.e that watching the team isn't purgatory), and even if the way Vieira plays could somehow be proved to cost us a few points compared to Dyche, I wouldn't change it.

I don't really care where exactly in midtable we finish, so what's a few points between friends?

Good answer

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 24 Jan 22 6.31am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Fair question, and yeah I think it's certainly feasible that we could have collected one or two more points this season under Dyche, or under Hodgson for that matter. It's equally possible that we'd have the same number of points, or possibly a few less than under Vieira of course. We'll never know.

What I feel certain of is that none of these managers would have got us into Europe (not the posh end anyway) and none of them would have got us relegated. Beyond those two extremes, all that matters is how we play (i.e that watching the team isn't purgatory), and even if the way Vieira plays could somehow be proved to cost us a few points compared to Dyche, I wouldn't change it.

I don't really care where exactly in midtable we finish, so what's a few points between friends?

Only Kevin knows the answer

 

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