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View cardiff eagle's Profile cardiff eagle Flag 10 Feb 22 8.07am Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

Just thinking back over last few games and seems to me that whenever we’re on top and starting to turn the screw, Vieira senses this and makes an attacking sub. This in itself is not a bad thing but it does seem to lose our momentum. Last night as soon as edouard and eze came on it was probably Norwich’s best spell of match. Similarly against Liverpool when we took mateta and Hughes off we lost momentum too.

Earlier on in the season, he made changes when chasing games and playing poorly and it seemed to work. Think going forward the if it’s isn’t broke don’t fix it approach may be more beneficial.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 10 Feb 22 8.24am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Agree with this.
The substitutions have taken away our momentum and disturbed the rhythm of our play.
I guess it comes with the territory of a strong bench with different options.
But as a general rule it does not make sense to make changes when the team is on top and firing on all cylinders.

 

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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 10 Feb 22 8.31am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

The commentators said the same on the stream I was waching.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 10 Feb 22 8.34am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Wonder what our stats are on this valid point?

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 10 Feb 22 8.43am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Its an interesting one.

As on paper they are the right subs, and you'll be telling those guys that they have 10 mins to go and make an impression on the game.

But it did upset the flow a little.

Not sure what the answer is, if he hadn't made them we've all be yelling that Eze and OE are on the bench. And to be fair quite a few of his subs this year have made pretty quick impact.

 

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View cardiff eagle's Profile cardiff eagle Flag 10 Feb 22 7.32pm Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

From memory, and therefore it could be wrong, the subs hes made when it’s works are where we were being outplayed or dominated and then the subs made the difference. For me, it’s when we’re dominating that’s the problem as at that point dont change it even if right on paper. Tough to be critical when he’s done such a good job but definitely noticed this pattern recently. Interesting to see if he also has noticed it and changes approach!

 

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View cardiff eagle's Profile cardiff eagle Flag 10 Feb 22 7.33pm Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

Remembered another one. 2-1 up at Arsenal, dominating and looking more likely to score a third and he brought Tomkins on and we endured 10 mins of hell before eventually conceding!

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 11 Feb 22 9.08pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

He didn't cover himself in glory against Brighton either IMO when we had Mateta and Benteke both on the pitch at the end and no outlet.

I really wonder about the way subs are used in top flight football at times and how long they need to play themselves into the game / warm up.

 

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View cardiff eagle's Profile cardiff eagle Flag 01 Mar 22 9.54pm Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

Possibly the most bizarre set of subs so far tonight!

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 01 Mar 22 11.23pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

Possibly the most bizarre set of subs so far tonight!

And yet one of them pops up with the winning goal.

 

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View cardiff eagle's Profile cardiff eagle Flag 01 Mar 22 11.32pm Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

Pretty sure he wasn’t brought on for that purpose!

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 02 Mar 22 3.10am Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

The whole starting line up was strange not just the subs.

 


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