The 'Long Ball' Game
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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 20 Mar 22 6.25pm |
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Hueng Min Son just scored a belter for Spurs, from a goalie kickoff. Wondering when and how the Long Ball went out of fashion. It was popular with Jack Charlton whose Rep of Ireland achieved an historic victory over a strong Italy at a World Cup. Sun Tzu 'the art of War' will always advise being unpredictable. So why do we not see the Long Ball game used more often ? And in the event of their midfield ( Kevin De Bruyne ) being better than your midfield ( Luka M. ) then surely the Long Ball is a good tactic ? Even when teams are having a constant siege on their goal, they often defensively hoof the ball into the Stands rather than play a long ball attack to the other end of the pitch. Why is this ? Surely when 'they' have 10 men around your goal, a Long Ball will panic their men into running back ? Hence its a good way to keep them back and on the back foot ? Are we stricter today with the Offside-trap ? and thus killing the Long Ball game, compared to the era before cameras and instant replay. Like clothing fashion copying Peaky Blinders or Mr Bean copying Charlie Chaplin , will the old-fashioned stuff make a come-back ? will the Long Ball seem a revolutionary new tactic ? any opinions or observations on the Long Ball game ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (21 Mar 2022 12.28am)
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Pete53  Hassocks 20 Mar 22 8.11pm |
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The long ball as a preferred tactic is a rather haphazard approach. Yes sometimes it comes off, particularly if you have a couple of tall frontmen, and defenders who can make accurate long passes.I recall Watford employed this approach with some success in the early 80s. However, you are also usually providing the defending team with as much chance of collecting the ball as your own frontmen. It's also noticeable that goalkeepers rarely now drop kick long balls forward. Of course it can still be very effective when the opposition have thrown everyone forward and a quick break is on.
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 20 Mar 22 8.22pm |
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I would suggest that the 'Long Ball' game is considered a tad old fashioned these days. I can remember standing on the old Holmesdale terraces with dad shouting at John Jackson to kick the bl**dy thing up the pitch. He'd be exasperated if JJ simply threw the ball a few yards. 'What's the point of that?' he'd shout. Funny old game.
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Teddy Eagle  20 Mar 22 9.47pm |
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It depends who's involved - Kevin de Bruyne can hit a defence splitting inch perfect pass which is a miracle of skill, precision and vision while others just lump it up the middle.
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monkey  Sittingbourne,Kent 21 Mar 22 12.54am |
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All I know is against Everton, we struggled early on with them closing us down, but as soon as Butland started waving Guehi and Anderson away and we started lumping it upfield a bit more instead of sodding about with it at the back there was only one team going to win.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Mar 22 7.22am |
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It's a valid tactic I can remember the great Man United and Liverpool teams doing the same thing when it suited them. Poor old Harry Basset got slaughtered each week for his Sheffield United team doing it whilst at the same time the pundits drooled over a goal scored by Liverpool which was a punt from the keeper. Nothing wrong with a bit of variety.
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Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 21 Mar 22 7.24am |
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Originally posted by Pete53
The long ball as a preferred tactic is a rather haphazard approach. Yes sometimes it comes off, particularly if you have a couple of tall frontmen, and defenders who can make accurate long passes.I recall Watford employed this approach with some success in the early 80s. However, you are also usually providing the defending team with as much chance of collecting the ball as your own frontmen. It's also noticeable that goalkeepetrs rarely now drop kick long balls forward. Of course it can still be very effective when the opposition have thrown everyone forward and a quick break is on. I don't think you can call that 'the long ball game'. Hoddle use to hit the ball 50 yards from the Tottenham defence to land on the toe of Garth Crooks. I don't think Glenn would call it it a 'long ball'.
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Lanzo-Ad  Lanzarote 21 Mar 22 7.40am |
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The Long ball game is nothing like what people are saying, it was/is a tactic similar to Rugby where the goal is to move the play up the pitch, generally diagonal passes beyond the full backs giving possession away but pressurising them to kick the ball out for throw ins or corners, that is why Bassett, Warnock etc liked the grass left longer so the ball stayed in play. the mid field is solely to stop the opposition playing, Jones, Wise etc
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| Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 21 Mar 22 7.43am |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
The Long ball game is nothing like what people are saying, it was/is a tactic similar to Rugby where the goal is to move the play up the pitch, generally diagonal passes beyond the full backs giving possession away but pressurising them to kick the ball out for throw ins or corners, that is why Bassett, Warnock etc liked the grass left longer so the ball stayed in play. the mid field is solely to stop the opposition playing, Jones, Wise etc I cant remember the name of the guy who was in charge of the FA tactical side, mate of Graham Taylor who he made England manager
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| Teddy Eagle 21 Mar 22 7.44am |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
The Long ball game is nothing like what people are saying, it was/is a tactic similar to Rugby where the goal is to move the play up the pitch, generally diagonal passes beyond the full backs giving possession away but pressurising them to kick the ball out for throw ins or corners, that is why Bassett, Warnock etc liked the grass left longer so the ball stayed in play. the mid field is solely to stop the opposition playing, Jones, Wise etc Sometimes maybe but usually it was to get the ball into the area as quickly as possible - Charles Hughes' POMO theory.
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| Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 21 Mar 22 9.05am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Sometimes maybe but usually it was to get the ball into the area as quickly as possible - Charles Hughes' POMO theory. That's his name, good memory, all about statistics
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Mar 22 10.27am |
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Pulis used direct football and set pieces incredibly well with us. The team was far greater than the sum of its parts.
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