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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag Cahir 06 Apr 22 10.43am Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

I came across this on Newsnow , A long but very good post .
Just before half-time at Watford, Tyrick Mitchell volleyed a cross onto Conor Gallagher’s right foot and his instant belter put Palace back in front. At that moment, it seemed that Chelsea would grab back their midfielder at the first opportunity. With Gallagher’s loan from Chelsea due to end on May 31, that goal of great beauty made it seem even less likely that Palace could ever be in a position to buy him.

A few weeks on, much has changed. Even if war did break out in Ukraine, nobody could have seen how it would affect Palace. We had just overwhelmed Hartlepool to reach the fifth round of the Cup, Wembley was just a twinkle in Patrick’s eye, and the only England player in the Palace squad was Gallagher, who had shown a tiny glimmer of promise thanks to his brief appearance off the bench against San Marino.

Since That Night
Russia attacked Ukraine, so Abramovich was sanctioned in Britain for his relationship with Putin
Chelsea were banned from putting players on new contracts
Abramovich put Chelsea up for sale
In order to buy Chelsea, Palace shareholders Blitzer and Harris backed a consortium that’s now on a short-list of just 4 potential buyers
Palace team-mates Gallagher, Marc Guehi and Tyrick Mitchell all made highly promising full debuts for England
Having edged past Stoke and blown Everton away, Palace earned a Wembley FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea
Do We Want Gallagher To Sign For Palace?
It’s highly unlikely any Palace supporter would say no. So let’s assess how he could join us permanently.

Gallagher Needs A Pay Rise – Fast!
While there’s a ban on Chelsea negotiating new contracts, Conor Gallagher’s pay cannot be increased. According to salarysport.com, his current contract at Chelsea pays him just 17,000 quid a week. To you and me, that’s a fortune, but when you consider Christian Benteke is on 120,000 a week, you can see Gallagher is underpaid.

Who Does Gallagher Want To Win The Semi-Final?
Palace! Obviously. Why? If Chelsea win, there’s absolutely nothing in it for Gallagher. If Palace win, he gets to play in the FA Cup Final, with a medal a certainty. And, if we win, he gets the glory, an experience of a lifetime and maybe even a financial bonus too.

Chelsea Or Palace? Which WOuld Gallagher Prefer?
New owners at Chelsea will likely get the “new contract” ban lifted, but how will Gallagher relish life fighting Mount, Jorginho, Kante, Kovacic, Loftus-Cheek, Gilmour, possibly Saul and maybe others, just to set foot on the pitch – how will bench life suit the human dynamo that is Conor Gallagher?

By contrast, at Crystal Palace, he has had a season beyond his (and our) dreams. He’s an automatic choice when he’s available, he has freedom in the system, he scores goals, he plays with a smile on his face, he’s adored, he plainly loves the fans, he’s had England recognition, and he loves working with and for Patrick. And Palace have a pay scale that permits him to get a massive pay rise instantly.

Can Palace Afford NOT To Try To Buy Conor Gallagher?
The way Palace are playing, Gallagher’s work and passion are not just a huge plus for the team, they’re critical to our success. He’s a leader, a one-man press and he’s scored 8 goals and provided 3 assists in just 26 starts. The statistics are amazing. Sure, we can buy a midfielder, but replacing CG will be expensive, with absolutely zero certainty of a positive outcome. For example, Harry Winks is rumoured to want to leave Tottenham and might fancy a regular starting spot at Palace, working with Vieira and filling Gallagher’s shoes. But he’s 26 (Gallagher’s only 22), and his 10-cap England career looks to be largely in the rear-view mirror. And he’ll cost at least 20m.

Can Palace Afford To Buy Conor Gallagher?
It’s going to be difficult. Per frontofficesports.com, in the year to 31 July 2020, thanks largely to the pandemic, Palace lost 76.6m quid. To keep the club going under this financial strain, the American directors (Blitzer and Harris) have been playing banker and making loans. Two things are certain. Whether or not the Americans sell their Palace shares to buy Chelsea, the terms of these loans won’t be friendly – and repayment in full will be required sooner or later.

Who has 40m to invest? Stepping forward to buy Palace shares, John Textor has been a willing new investor. Per the Evening Standard, Textor bought almost 40% of CPFC 2010 last year for 87.5m, and it seems he is prepared to buy any shares that Blitzer and Harris are selling. They currently own 22% between them, worth around 40m although – if Blitzer and Harris have to sell their shares in Palace so they can be investors in the Sebastian Coe consortium to buy Chelsea – their selling price will surely be reduced to reflect the fact that it’s effectively a “forced” sale.

If Blitzer And Harris Leave, Who Controls Crystal Palace?
Buying all of the Blitzer/Harris shares would put Textor in sole control of the club with over 60% ownership – and Steve Parrish is said to be committed to never letting one owner have total control again. Thankfully, Parrish remembers being a fan when Noades, Goldberg and Jordan all took turns at sole ownership, and look how that went. To say the least, the current situation is fluid.

How Much Would A Permanent Move For Gallagher Cost The Palace?
Palace currently have the ear of Gallagher, they see him every day and they presumably know if he would even consider becoming a Palace player long-term. If he would, it seems safe to speculate that – given his age, his unique engine, the sensational season he’s having and his progress into the England squad on the eve of the World Cup – the fee would be probably be 40m to 50m.

How Could Palace Raise That Kind Of Cash?
The solution might lie in the man who laid on Gallagher’s goal at Watford – Tyrick Mitchell. Tyrick’s improvement over 12 months shows the kind of character and raw talent that can one day make him a great player. Now, I’d hate to see him go, but …..

They’re Coming For Mitchell
Transfer gossip reports that the state ownerships at Manchester City and Newcastle (even further enriched by the soaring oil price) are each preparing a huge bid for Tyrick Mitchell. Now, every fan will surely be screaming “No” …. And yet …. As is clear above, many pieces of this jigsaw puzzle are still on the move, and there’s no certainty where that movement will end.

The best news is that Palace are blessed with a promising set-up that could absorb some of the pain of losing Mitchell.

In the wings, there’s Tayo Adaramola, who’s only 19 and lacks first-team experience but is showing such promise in Tyrick’s position that Patrick already gave him his full debut. Given Patrick’s patience with youth, it might be that we’d have to wait a while to see him become a first-team regular. But, in Schlupp, Ward and Clyne, we have three highly experienced options who could all slot in instantly to the left-back berth – all are out of contract on June 30, so Palace would need to take care of that.

Of course, Ward and Clyne are more suited to playing at right-back, but Nathan Ferguson should soon be fit again and, after 2 years injured, will certainly be fresh for a full pre-season this summer to prepare his challenge for a first-team slot on the right of the back 4. And, with Ferguson’s injury issues and both Ward and Clyne out of contract, Palace might in any case be reasonably expected to already be scouting a new right-back, although that would stretch the transfer budget.

How Much Would We Get For Mitchell?
Tyrick’s value has risen exponentially in just a few weeks this year, and in coming to a valuation we have a good “comparable” in Aaron Wan-Bissaka. AWB left Palace at age 21, having played 42 games, and he fetched 45-50m. Tyrick is 22 and has played 56 games, with the add-on that he’s now a full England international – Aaron never got that far. If there really are two or more bidders, the fee Palace would expect could scale the heights.

OR… What About A STraight Swap With Chelsea – They Get Mitchell, We Get Gallagher?
With the demands of their fixture list, Chelsea need two “stars” for every position. Chilwell’s long-term injury has exposed a weakness at left-back, and Alonso may not be Tuchel’s cup of tea – he was subbed off immediately last weekend when Brentford went ahead at Stamford Bridge. Sarr (a central defender) has already had to play some games at left-back. With Christensen off to Barcelona, with Rudiger and Azpilicueta out of contract, and with Silva 38 in September, a back line rebuild must be on Tuchel’s radar. Letting Gallagher go in order to get Mitchell is an idea that might well win favour with the German.

What Do You Think?

 


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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 06 Apr 22 10.59am Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

I love Tyrick but yes it would be worth it. We have Aderamola coming through but Conor is so vital to the way we play and is exceptional

 

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View gerry theagle's Profile gerry theagle Flag newbury 06 Apr 22 11.03am Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

Thanks for posting,a very interesting read. Sadly I just can't see Chelsea letting Conor leave the Bridge for alll the tea in China.But does he have a "buy out"clause in his current contract.....probably not unfortunately.

 

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View Crystal_Clear's Profile Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 06 Apr 22 11.07am Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

I don't see Gallagher leaving Chelsea at all next season.

Though, the problem I see for him is that presently he is playing in the perfect position for him, ie. the front of a midfield 3 pressing the position.

Is he going to play in that position for Chelsea ?

There is talk of him replacing Kante - but they don't play in the same position.

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 06 Apr 22 11.10am Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Mitchell is very promising but Gallagher is so much more impactful on the game. I reckon he would go for twice the price on the open market

 

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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 06 Apr 22 11.12am Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

Would dearly love to see Conor stay and clearly his is enjoying being at the club and playing regular football.

However. He has the consensus of opinion is he wants to return to Chelsea and fight for a starting place. If we had the same scenario with a Palace player on loan - we would also be reluctant to sell him.

As has been said many times before, just enjoy him whilst he is at the club and get red for a huge send off during the last home game.

 

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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 06 Apr 22 11.12am Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

Originally posted by VinceHilaire

Would dearly love to see Conor stay and clearly his is enjoying being at the club and playing regular football.

However, it is the consensus of opinion is he wants to return to Chelsea and fight for a starting place. If we had the same scenario with a Palace player on loan - we would also be reluctant to sell him.

As has been said many times before, just enjoy him whilst he is at the club and get red for a huge send off during the last home game.

 

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View oohahh's Profile oohahh Flag Caterham 06 Apr 22 11.19am Send a Private Message to oohahh Add oohahh as a friend

We rarely sign a loanee. Thinking Loftus Cheek, Bamford, James Vaughan, Batman. But this time I would love it

 

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 06 Apr 22 11.29am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

The only way I see us getting gallagher is if chelsea have a buy back clause, they can take up at any time.

 

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View antipodeagle's Profile antipodeagle Flag Wellington 06 Apr 22 11.38am Send a Private Message to antipodeagle Add antipodeagle as a friend

Originally posted by oohahh

We rarely sign a loanee. Thinking Loftus Cheek, Bamford, James Vaughan, Batman. But this time I would love it

Mamadou Sakho. Amazing on loan...occasionally amazing after we bought him.

And of course, JP Mateta...terrible on loan (imho)...on an accelerated improvement curve since buying him (long may it continue).

Wasn't Ayew also on loan originally?

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 06 Apr 22 11.47am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Not sure why they would need TM, Ben Chilwell is probs the best LB in the country.

There is no benefit to Chelsea selling him this summer. Even if he didn't play for them in the first half of the season he'd still be worth the same in the Jan transfer window.

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 06 Apr 22 12.07pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by antipodeagle


Wasn't Ayew also on loan originally?

As was Puncheon

 

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