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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 18 Apr 22 8.56am Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

What’s next? My annual piss up in Newcastle on Wednesday. Every cloud….

 


“You miss 100 per cent of the shots you don’t take”

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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 18 Apr 22 9.02am Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Ultimately if you play defensive football you have fewer chances, and those you get you have to put away.

We didn't so we lost. I thought we could have afforded to be more attacking but I get why PV did what he did.

The worst part is I thought Chelsea looked very average.

 

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View Nubes's Profile Nubes Flag London 18 Apr 22 9.05am Send a Private Message to Nubes Add Nubes as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I wouldn't take issue with you citing Olise. Indeed he has been a revelation, and should have started yesterday.
My main point is that in the machinery of the team, there are certain cogs that are vital for the other cogs to work. Gallagher is the vital cog that makes things happen for the other cogs to do their thing.

True, regarding a vital cog enabling others to work.

I just feel a fit Olise and the feedback from the game yesterday isn’t so cantered on CG not playing. I felt very excited with Wilf, Olise, Eze on the pitch at the same time and for a few minutes we were playing good. Incisive football. Until they scored the second.

Wilf and Eze’s movement and energy shifted significantly when Olise came on.

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 18 Apr 22 10.27am Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

It's a shame we used defensive tactics but when not one of your team would get into the oppositions then you have to be cautious. Saints tried to take the game to Chelsea and lost 6-0 but the FA are pleased they now have the final they wanted

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 18 Apr 22 10.55am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

My overriding thought when I got home last night was that football is dead. As lifted and proud as I always am by following the Palace in victory or defeat, I was utterly depressed at the pointlessness of it all. Following Palace feels like being a missionary for something that no longer exists.

Sport is competition, and there is none left in ours. So what's the point? The game is just a handful of foreign millionaires who, if you're lucky, leave a few scraps for the other 90 clubs to fight over. Personally, I genuinely wish the European Super League would go ahead. Then Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, and a couple of others can f*** off and let the rest of us revive and enjoy what sport used to be and should be all about.

Yesterday was embarrassing and the authorities who've allowed the game to be reduced to a giant, prawn sandwich should hang their heads in shame. What happened at Wembley? A big wallet followed by absolutely no one who gave a f*** (I'm not sure who the people were at the other end of the stadium, but I wouldn't call them "football supporters" have reached yet another soul-less Cup Final. Palace, meanwhile, were the last actual football club standing in the competition.

Note the words "football club". We are a CLUB. The other sides in the semi-finals were "teams" (possibly excepting Liverpool). There's no sense of "club" about them. I'm surprised, on the back of their shirts, Chelsea and Man City don't add sort codes to their squad numbers.

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Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 18 Apr 22 11.00am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Beaten by a better team. That's all there is to it really I think. Our only ever chance was Chelsea having an off day...and they didn't. I'm not too upset about it. But by gosh we need a decent striker in the window...if PV doesn't rate the ones we've got...let's go get one he does rate.

 

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View cROYdonrogers's Profile cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 18 Apr 22 11.00am Send a Private Message to cROYdonrogers Add cROYdonrogers as a friend

I’m still scratching my head about Ward as a wing back. If it was a sentimental decision fair enough. He always tries but it didn’t really work.
The succession of substitutions left us totally unbalanced. From Hodgson to Pardew in one game. This all sounds a bit harsh . It was a nice day out and I’m sure PV had learned about the squad.
His biggest challenge for next season is getting Eze back on track. The injury won’t work as an excuse next season. Use him as a sub for the rest of the season. He may come on and do something special which will boost his confidence.
Where was Hughes? Thought he’d be a natural replacement for JM when he ran out of steam.

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 18 Apr 22 11.07am Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

For all Chelsea's wealth we were beaten by two scorers that didn't cost a transfer fee ; arguably our two most talented performers this season Gallagher and Olise were groomed there

We need to up our development of young players if we are to compete long term and that includes a pathway to the first team


 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 18 Apr 22 11.09am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend


Positives
Palace fans were immense throughout, in attendance colour and voice. Great day in the sun.

Eze – whilst he didn’t have a telling impact on the game, he looked a cut above. Seriously talented footballer, just need to find a way to get him involved more often.

We’re a club on the up. A lot to be proud of.

Negatives
Team selection and formation – playing 3 at the back, with ward as a wingback just felt odd. And even stranger to go with something very different on the biggest game of the season.

Ruthlessness – potentially just unlucky that too decent chances fell to CK, but both were at important times of the game. The header especially, just before they scored the opener. Big games, need players to step up. Andersons open goal was also pretty terrible.

Chelsea fans – WTF is wrong with them. Loads of empty seats, fans streaming out at 2.0, not a single song sung in the ground, and out of it all they want to do is to goad and fight

Policing – how can they get it so wrong, fans sit at opposite sides of the ground so should be easy enough to keep them apart. Loads of coppers, all in the wrong places, standing around doing f all. Fans mixed and stuck on Wembley way fighting.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 18 Apr 22 1.56pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

‘Vieira found himself in a game of tactical warfare and that is something you rarely win against Tuchel…Palace are at their best when they are instinctive and quick thinking and I would have preferred to see them put more pressure on Chelsea’s back three…’

The above is a view expressed in the Times today that some on here endorse.
I have mixed feelings and understand the approach used and which could have worked if either of Kouyate’s efforts had gone in.
It’s not a precise science though is it?
For example I felt Ward was out of position as right wing back and curtailed our ability to develop attacks down our right.
However, I read another view that Ward had totally negated the attacking threat of Alonso who is usually a potent attacking outlet on Chelsea’s left.
Both of the above views have validity and I was probably unfair in understanding Ward’s precise role in stopping Alonso which he arguably fulfilled.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 18 Apr 22 2.12pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

I think PV let his heart rule his head in this one. Giving a last hoorah to Ward and Benteke and playing Eze when he has not been given a chance all season.

Olise had to start that game - if he was fit for 20 minutes he was fit to start.

I know this won’t go down well with most fans but if we get a AWB type offer for Mitchell I would take it. As good as he is defending he is so poor on the ball that it causes us a lot of issues.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 18 Apr 22 2.16pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

As to the "what's next" part of the equation: get as many points from the remaining league games as possible, finish 10th or above, avoid injuries, and plan for next season.
Cup semi final, mid table still to play for, in a transitionary season Vieira has done well. A couple of decent midfield signings, a right back, a striker, and we should be fit to go.

 

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