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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 May 22 9.29pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

...this season.

Only Liverpool managed better than us, they got 8.

Thank you PV and all the Eagles in the squad.

 


7 points from Manchester last season

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View antipodeagle's Profile antipodeagle Flag Wellington 24 May 22 11.51am Send a Private Message to antipodeagle Add antipodeagle as a friend

We also beat 4 of the top 6 this season. Doubt we've ever done that before.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 May 22 1.05pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by antipodeagle

We also beat 4 of the top 6 this season. Doubt we've ever done that before.


Which got me thinking about where we fell short this season. Let's see.

Performance against top 6
won 4
drew 2
lost 6
which is probably better than any other team outside the top 6 managed (I haven't checked).

Performance against bottom 6
won 5
drew 5
lost 2
which is okish but we've done better in recent seasons

performance against the middle 7 around us
won 2
drew 8
lost 4
which is where we let ourselves down. Only getting 1 point against,
West Ham
Leicester
Newcastle
Villa
and 2 points against
Brentford and Brighton
is underwhelming.

We can do better next season.

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 24 May 22 1.49pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

While we're on statistics, someone has pointed out to me that we didn't concede a single goal in our last six home matches (including Everton in the Cup). I could get used to that!

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 May 22 3.52pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

also our defence against all of Manchester was amazing. nearly impossible to get at the back of our net, The Eagles Nest.

without wishing to crow too loudly, ..........

there were teams in the latter stages of the Champions league that did not get near our achievements in this regard.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 May 2022 3.59pm)

 


7 points from Manchester last season

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 25 May 22 9.38am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

I think the three points for a win system tends to lead you to see things negatively because two draws against a team (which isn't a bad return) is suddenly 33% of possible points rather than 50%.

Where we let ourselves down for me is in two areas:

1. We were poor on set pieces pretty much all season. We didn't defend them well and didn't make use of them at the other end. We gave up far too many set-piece goals and scored too few of our own. This is a shortcoming that coaching can address and I'd expect a focus on that in pre-season.

2. Obviously, though it improved a little later in the season, finishing out games. If games were 87 minutes long, not 90, we'd be in Europe now.

A third area is turning draws into wins, but that should come in time too and we did improve there as well as the season went on.

The plus points are that for the first time, we became hard to beat. Even when we weren't winning, we left games with a point. And we conceded very few goals. So pretty much every week, we gave ourselves a chance. Great teams are always built from the back. And for a team that didn't have a dominant goalscorer, we nevertheless scored quite a lot of goals. That's a good formula.

For me, the single biggest leap we need to take next year is a simple one. If either Edouard or Mateta can turn into even a 15 goal a year centre forward, we're a top ten side. And I see no reason why one of the two can't.

In some ways, Vieira is Arsenal-ising us. 1. Play attractive, possession-based football. 2. Very solid at the back, with few goals conceded. 3. Use wingers (for Overmars, Pires, etc. think Wilf, Olise, etc.). 4. Become hard to break down. As I said, what we're missing is the Wright/Henry born goalscorer. If we can find that...

Edited by sydtheeagle (25 May 2022 9.39am)

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 25 May 22 10.56am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

This has to have been the only season we have beaten both North London clubs and both Manchester clubs. Just a shame we couldn't have beaten Liverpool and added 'both Merseyside clubs' to that list

 

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