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View cROYdonrogers's Profile cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 27 May 22 8.17am Send a Private Message to cROYdonrogers Add cROYdonrogers as a friend

So we're linked with Sam Johnstone (29) and I think there was some passing reference to Pope, although in my view Johnstone on a free is much more our style.
But do we need either? Guaita (35) is a great shot stopper but in my view lacks command in the air and has indifferent distribution. I've never quirked when Butland (29) appears on the teamsheet. He's solid but is known to have a mistake in him. I think he's done well this year.
We could stick for a couple of seasons or do we try to recoup something for Guaita, who apparently want to return to Valencia some time. Depending on the level of Guaita's desire I'd maybe do it, but its a tricky one.

 

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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 27 May 22 8.29am Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

We are also not aware of what is going on behind the scenes. Jack may want guaranteed first team football. Iím sure he does not want to be number 2 GK for another season.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 27 May 22 8.45am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

The one obvious issue with both Vicente and Butland is that neither are good with the ball at their feet, which is more of an issue now we're starting to play out from the back. I don't think that is one of Pope's strong points either. To be honest I can remember whether Johnstone was good with his feet, but he was POTY for WBA when they were in the PL (apparently hasn't had a great season this year though)

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 27 May 22 9.09am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Always seem to Want 3!

Whenever I've seen Sam Johnstone(which admittedly isn't much) he looks a class act. that one Cameo for England really stood out for me. happy to have any player of that class at our club.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 27 May 22 10.14am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

The obvious question for me is WHY are we being linked with Johnstone given that we already have two decent, albeit not top class, keepers? What do the click-baiters think they know that we don't?

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 27 May 22 11.13am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

The obvious question for me is WHY are we being linked with Johnstone given that we already have two decent, albeit not top class, keepers? What do the click-baiters think they know that we don't?

agreed, unless one goes can't understand the logic of getting another high earner in.

We know VG want to return to Spain but i'm pretty sure he'll do so after next season as a free agent - he will be 36 then so no issues if he does that. He's on big money now so doubtful a club will pay similar wages and a transfer fee.

Butland is ok but is a similar type of keeper - his inability to command his area is a big negative IMHO. He is glued to his line at corners. He probably wants first team footie but unless a bottom 6 prem team come in for him not sure if that will happen.

Johnstone looks ok but will not want to come to warm the bench. Is he better than VG??

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 27 May 22 11.29am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

I seem to be in a small minority but I've really not been at all impressed by Butland this season. He seems to be a good character/part of the squad but in my view, his goalkeeping skills have been short of what's required. If Johnstone, Pope or anyone else comes in as our number 2, I'd see it as an ugrade.

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 27 May 22 11.49am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I seem to be in a small minority but I've really not been at all impressed by Butland this season. He seems to be a good character/part of the squad but in my view, his goalkeeping skills have been short of what's required. If Johnstone, Pope or anyone else comes in as our number 2, I'd see it as an ugrade.


I can't imagine Pope moving to be any team's number 2. As for his coming here, IMHO, his playing-out-from-the-back skills are worse than either Guaita or Butland.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 27 May 22 1.29pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

BBC saying it's likely Butland will leave if Johnstone comes in. Butland seems almost identical to Hennessey in my mind: big kick on him, big presence, but a bit slow. I like him, but if he went I don't think he'd be a big loss and he has looked genuinely terrifying with the ball at his feet a few times this season. Johnstone would then have a season to prove he's ready to succeed Vicente when (it seems) he will return to Spain.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 May 22 1.59pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

BBC saying it's likely Butland will leave if Johnstone comes in. Butland seems almost identical to Hennessey in my mind: big kick on him, big presence, but a bit slow. I like him, but if he went I don't think he'd be a big loss and he has looked genuinely terrifying with the ball at his feet a few times this season. Johnstone would then have a season to prove he's ready to succeed Vicente when (it seems) he will return to Spain.

Not a bad shout.

I do not and will not begrudge Vinnie a move back to Spain, he's been a great player for us and on a human level it's understandable.

Agree on Butland, which is a shame as he really looked like the real deal at one stage, albeit years ago.

I'd like to see if not the man, the likes of Johnstone come in with a bit more forward planning on another keeper.

I do think we should have three, which for me are a first choice, a capable deputy and god-willing a youthful and ambitious goalkeeper, great if home grown.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 May 22 2.17pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 27 May 22 2.55pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Ideally you want genuine competition for places and I don't think Butland has shown enough to take VG's.

He's also at a stage in his career where he needs to get regular first team football.


 


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