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View fish mitten's Profile fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 15 Aug 22 12.54pm Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

Have to completely agree. This season looks like it could be the toughest for awhile. Only Bournemouth look quite weak this time around and we currently have lost Kouyate, Gallagher and Benteke, who were all starters/subs that are likely to come on.

Only Doucoure that has come in fits that bill.

Add in Tomkins and McArthur as being constantly injured we are now short of decent starting options in midfield and upfront.

A bad start (which considering our fixtures was always likely) and a couple of injuries and I'm not sure 'young prospects' are the ones that are likely to dig you out of trouble.

To me this season seems the one most where we are likely to get sucked into a relegation battle for awhile.

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I agree with you Willo, we've got plenty of prospects of our own. If we do bring in fresh talent, he or they need to make an immediate impact.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Aug 22 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by fish mitten

Have to completely agree. This season looks like it could be the toughest for awhile. Only Bournemouth look quite weak this time around and we currently have lost Kouyate, Gallagher and Benteke, who were all starters/subs that are likely to come on.

Only Doucoure that has come in fits that bill.

Add in Tomkins and McArthur as being constantly injured we are now short of decent starting options in midfield and upfront.

A bad start (which considering our fixtures was always likely) and a couple of injuries and I'm not sure 'young prospects' are the ones that are likely to dig you out of trouble.

To me this season seems the one most where we are likely to get sucked into a relegation battle for awhile.

I concur with these sentiments.
Privately and on HOL I have expressed deep concern about our prospects this season whist admitting I have been an 'Elijah of doom' for some time!

 

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View Oxford Don's Profile Oxford Don Flag North West of SP 15 Aug 22 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Oxford Don Add Oxford Don as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

"Prospects" - This would appear to be our focus when we really need to acquire players for "Today".We could end up with a number of "Interesting prospects" in the Championship.

Yes, I get your point and where we are at now certainly does require a player for "Today". The problem we face is that a proven player for "Today" costs an arm and a leg - not to mention their wage demands and the effect that that can have on the established squad members.

So, as a strategy for any club outside the elite it seems sensible. A certain club down your way seems to be making a reasonable fist of it without seeming to spend on those players for "Today". I for one wouldn't want to give up on it so any thoughts on what they've done right and how we might square the circle?

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Aug 22 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Oxford Don

Yes, I get your point and where we are at now certainly does require a player for "Today". The problem we face is that a proven player for "Today" costs an arm and a leg - not to mention their wage demands and the effect that that can have on the established squad members.

So, as a strategy for any club outside the elite it seems sensible. A certain club down your way seems to be making a reasonable fist of it without seeming to spend on those players for "Today". I for one wouldn't want to give up on it so any thoughts on what they've done right and how we might square the circle?

I accept your argument, indeed I have mentioned this in a post in this Thread, adding that we have spent nigh on £75 Mill last season and some £25 Mill in pre-season leading up to this campaign.Not a great deal received for outgoings!

Edited by Willo (15 Aug 2022 1.16pm)

 

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View Hudsoneagle's Profile Hudsoneagle Flag 15 Aug 22 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Hudsoneagle Add Hudsoneagle as a friend

Iím surprised people arenít more behind this transfer. Itís fair to say last season was his break though season. If he can replicate that form he will be costing 20-25m. People have mentioned heís only got a year left on his contract, but thatís not quite rightÖBristol have a year option to extend. So there is no desperate rush to sell him, and he is a player they have openly admitted is the best player at the club.

Iím conscious and cautious to compare a forward like Semenyo, to a midfielder like Gibbs WhiteÖbut in terms of goal contributions, Semenyo did better last year, with a total of 20 goal contributions. So heís had a good year, seems a very good player, and I dare say for 12m, heís not a huge gamble.

Are Palace after squad depth with this lad, or a first team starter??? Thatís the big question here. I think heíd work well in a forward line of 3. He presses well, has pace and strength, seems like a good finisher. Certainly an interesting potential player for us.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Aug 22 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I have seen Semenyo play but that was a few seasons ago, so I sought the views of a gentleman who is more Au Fait with his game than me.

He did mention quite a few positives but added that last year Bristol C had been working on the player taking fewer touches and that decision-making had become his achilles heal the season before last.
Earlier his year it was mentioned that the player was unpredictable, doing something brilliant then frustrating his supporters.
Semenyo is a striker who has played on both flanks and hits the ball well with both feet.He has only scored 13 goals in the last 2 seasons and in the past it was said that he was good at setting up goals for others but needed to add more goals to his game.

Edited by Willo (15 Aug 2022 1.34pm)

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag UK/Thailand 15 Aug 22 1.40pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have seen Semenyo play but that was a few seasons ago, so I sought the views of a gentleman who is more Au Fait with his game than me.

He did mention quite a few positives but added that last year Bristol C had been working on the player taking fewer touches and that decision-making had become his achilles heal the season before last.
Earlier his year it was mentioned that the player was unpredictable, doing something brilliant then frustrating his supporters.
Semenyo is a striker who has played on both flanks and hits the ball well with both feet.He has only scored 13 goals in the last 2 seasons and in the past it was said that he was good at setting up goals for others but needed to add more goals to his game.

Edited by Willo (15 Aug 2022 1.34pm)


Sounds like he will fit in at Palace fine

Not scoring many goals and poor decision making perfect fit.

On serious note I would say no strikers are not the issue not sure why even looking at them.

When you are at this age you are not for the future you need game time now.

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 15 Aug 22 2.02pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I agree with you Willo, we've got plenty of prospects of our own. If we do bring in fresh talent, he or they need to make an immediate impact.

But in reality we don't have any prospects (Tayo aside) that are even close to being ready/good enough.

Up and down the land, the kids that are destined to be Prem players are out on loan at a decent level getting some games under their belt, not sat playing U23 football. So Semenyo, a 22yo with close to 100 Championship games is head and shoulders above any prospect we have inside the club.

We're also proving that we are able to find players young players with no Prem experience (Eze, Olise, Guehi etc) that can step up and play a role in the first team.

 

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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 15 Aug 22 2.10pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

Iím surprised people arenít more behind this transfer. Itís fair to say last season was his break though season. If he can replicate that form he will be costing 20-25m. People have mentioned heís only got a year left on his contract, but thatís not quite rightÖBristol have a year option to extend. So there is no desperate rush to sell him, and he is a player they have openly admitted is the best player at the club.

Iím conscious and cautious to compare a forward like Semenyo, to a midfielder like Gibbs WhiteÖbut in terms of goal contributions, Semenyo did better last year, with a total of 20 goal contributions. So heís had a good year, seems a very good player, and I dare say for 12m, heís not a huge gamble.

Are Palace after squad depth with this lad, or a first team starter??? Thatís the big question here. I think heíd work well in a forward line of 3. He presses well, has pace and strength, seems like a good finisher. Certainly an interesting potential player for us.

Does he? Over the last 2 seasons he averages a goal every 7 games. He looks like a good Championship player. I'm struggling to see anything so far that says he'd even go above Ayew in the pecking order or that he would have anything to offer in a side that is in the top 10 of the Premier League.

If Edouard or Mateta went on loan to a Championship side and came back with his record, I think there'd be huge disappointment.

If we do sign him, I do hope he does well, but I don't see how he'd even get in Bournemouth, Fulham or Forest's team. This isn't a signing that says we're pushing on, this is a signing that gets made in the scenario of we get relegated, Arsenal sign Olise for £40m and we pick up this guy to try and get us back up whilst banking the difference.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Aug 22 2.18pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I very much doubt that Semenyo will be signed by our club!

Edited by Willo (15 Aug 2022 2.22pm)

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Aug 22 2.18pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by ambrose7

Does he? Over the last 2 seasons he averages a goal every 7 games. He looks like a good Championship player. I'm struggling to see anything so far that says he'd even go above Ayew in the pecking order or that he would have anything to offer in a side that is in the top 10 of the Premier League.

If Edouard or Mateta went on loan to a Championship side and came back with his record, I think there'd be huge disappointment.

If we do sign him, I do hope he does well, but I don't see how he'd even get in Bournemouth, Fulham or Forest's team. This isn't a signing that says we're pushing on, this is a signing that gets made in the scenario of we get relegated, Arsenal sign Olise for £40m and we pick up this guy to try and get us back up whilst banking the difference.

Broadly agree.

Bigger guy, bit of athleticism about him, decent 'footballer', might be good for the team, sounds a bit like a poor man's JPMateta. We already have a better version of that, his name is JPMateta.

I can only think the reasoning behind this would be either JPM is expected to be our starting player and this guy back up, they are once again gambling (massively) on a hope he will be a top player one day which doesn't fit immediate requirements, we are panicking or have little other options even remotely possible at this late stage.

For double-digit millions, if there if f-all else, I'd rather start with Wilf, JPM or Edouard up top and save that money plus a bit more for an astutely and actively scouted target come January... preferably one we know will come in purely to get goals being able to do so too.


 


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View Hudsoneagle's Profile Hudsoneagle Flag 15 Aug 22 2.31pm Send a Private Message to Hudsoneagle Add Hudsoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Broadly agree.

Bigger guy, bit of athleticism about him, decent 'footballer', might be good for the team, sounds a bit like a poor man's JPMateta. We already have a better version of that, his name is JPMateta.

I can only think the reasoning behind this would be either JPM is expected to be our starting player and this guy back up, they are once again gambling (massively) on a hope he will be a top player one day which doesn't fit immediate requirements, we are panicking or have little other options even remotely possible at this late stage.

For double-digit millions, if there if f-all else, I'd rather start with Wilf, JPM or Edouard up top and save that money plus a bit more for an astutely and actively scouted target come January... preferably one we know will come in purely to get goals being able to do so too.


I donít mean this to be negative towards your post, but Semenyo isnít a target man. He is a player more like Wilf than Mateta.

People are looking at his stats from the season before last, and missing the point entirely. Gibbs White did nothing while on loan at Swansea, but is now, after a single season of good form, being rated by wolves at 35mÖwhich is ludicrous IMO. My point here being, this lads potential is being judged on his form from last season which was very good indeed. 20 goal contributions for a 21/22 year old is worth taking a look at, all while playing for a club that struggled, finished 17th and he contributed to a third of all the goals the entire squad scored last season.

 

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