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So the first two days were fine, only the third day had widespread violence and a stabbing death so let's not be too harsh, 2 out of 3 not bad.

Reports are that a huge number of people were smoking cannabis and the police did nothing, it was being openly sold with other drugs. This is hearsay from people I know who were there so not fact ,as such.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 30 Aug 22 7.01am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Police said 209 arrests had been made by early Tuesday, including 46 for assault, 36 for possession of drugs, 33 for possession of an offensive weapon, 27 public order offences and eight sexual assaults. (BBC)

 


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View YT's Profile YT Online Flag Oxford 30 Aug 22 7.05am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

I went to Basildon Park (a National Trust property in Berkshire) instead. Much safer, very much quieter and no Sadiq Khan. A nice cream tea too.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Aug 22 7.37am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Police said 209 arrests had been made by early Tuesday, including 46 for assault, 36 for possession of drugs, 33 for possession of an offensive weapon, 27 public order offences and eight sexual assaults. (BBC)

It's a celebration of Caribbean culture.

 

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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 30 Aug 22 8.14am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Police said 209 arrests had been made by early Tuesday, including 46 for assault, 36 for possession of drugs, 33 for possession of an offensive weapon, 27 public order offences and eight sexual assaults. (BBC)

The joy of having the Carnival back after a couple of years without it.

Imagine if those statistics were related to a football event. Parliament would e having an emergency session this afternoon.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Aug 22 8.18am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

The joy of having the Carnival back after a couple of years without it.

Imagine if those statistics were related to a football event. Parliament would e having an emergency session this afternoon.

Spot on

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Aug 22 8.42am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

The joy of having the Carnival back after a couple of years without it.

Imagine if those statistics were related to a football event. Parliament would e having an emergency session this afternoon.

I wholeheartedly concur with these sentiments.

The latest figures indicate 209 arrests including 46 for assault, 36 for possession of drugs, 33 for possession of an offensive weapon, 27 public order offences and 8 sexual assaults.A man has also passed away.

At the last Carnival in 209 there were over 460 arrests reported.
Not 'Notting Hill Carnival, but 'Notting Hill Carnage' - Any other event would not be allowed to take place.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2022 8.49am)

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 30 Aug 22 8.59am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Also, I look at the costumes some wear and speculate about the time, energy and money spent putting them together.

In a couple of months time these same folk will be protesting in the streets and asking the government to help pay their energy bills.

Basically I agree, this 'carnival' is no cause for celebration.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Aug 22 9.02am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Also, I look at the costumes some wear and speculate about the time, energy and money spent putting them together.

In a couple of months time these same folk will be protesting in the streets and asking the government to help pay their energy bills.

Basically I agree, this 'carnival' is no cause for celebration.

The posturing 'Woke' pipsqueak, Sadiq Khan described the event as "Immaculate".

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Aug 22 9.21am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

The Notting Hill Carnival has always been for me a good little snapshot of black culture in the UK which now more than ever is distorted by two opposing narratives, neither of which are productive and IMHO, just my opinion, distort and resultantly block any perspective/commentary which has foundations in reality.

It is absolutely absurd to not suggest that the potential good time that can (and has) been had there, food, music, celebration etc is a f**king brilliant occasion, it really is. Equally, it is beyond my comprehension to not properly address the open drug use/market, the threat from gang culture, violence and seemingly flagrant criminal element that exists.

The apparent choice between either 'black people/culture bad, send them all back etc' or 'white people evil and racist, rise up and revolt' stances with no room for grey in between is, once again for me, a rejection of reality and a sad if not mind-f**king state of affairs.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 30 Aug 22 9.25am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by YT

I went to Basildon Park (a National Trust property in Berkshire) instead. Much safer, very much quieter and no Sadiq Khan. A nice cream tea too.

Sounds delightful.

I don't get that het up about the NHC (outside of people insisting on referring to it as 'Carnival'. If it was the only one in the world or even the first one then fine. But it's not). People have fair warning about what it is going to be like and therefore have a choice about going on not. I choose not to go.

I feel sorry for the cops who have to put with all that s*** but they chose to do the job knowing full well it would come with policing the NHC so it is just part and parcel of it all.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Aug 22 9.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Also, I look at the costumes some wear and speculate about the time, energy and money spent putting them together.

In a couple of months time these same folk will be protesting in the streets and asking the government to help pay their energy bills.

Basically I agree, this 'carnival' is no cause for celebration.

The costumes and floats are paid for by the taxpayer / lottery funding you didn't think they paid from them themselves? Oh that's assuming the money isn't embezzled by the committee which most years it is.

The whole thing is one big party paid for by the rest of us.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Aug 2022 9.26am)

 


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