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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 11 Sep 22 11.26pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

At 64 I've lost a number of friends though drink. I was on that slippery slope myself until I got a job with a company car where I had to drive every week day and some weekends.

As it stays in your body for some time it made it a career ending choice. Cut back drastically or lose my licence and thus my job.

I actually believe it saved my life.

I lost my best man last month. He was younger than me and had cirrhosis from the age of 50. Thus he had to give up or die. He died from cancer last month having been unable to work (or drink) since he was 50. He was an everyday drinker as well.

I lost a builder friend and neighbour a few years ago who, due to drink had high BP. He had two episodes where he ended up in hospital and was told to reduce his drinking drastically but continued.

He had a stroke and died at the age of 48.

Around 10 years ago I lost a mate who had a triple bypass op and then went from the hospital to the pub to celebrate!

Six months later he had a massive heart attack in a taxi when he returned from a bender on a stag weekend in Prague. He was 61.

Some drink is worse than others, drinking an excess of cider regularly for example will lead to cirrhosis for sure.

Now I tend to drink for pleasure. Not to get pissed.

I enjoy a brandy, a gin and tonic, lager and the odd fruit cider. Not at the same time!

One thing I have found re. hangovers is that the amount of chemicals put in some of our drink contributes massively to a headache. I have had a lot of drink regularly in Germany (not driving whilst on training courses) and I can honestly say I've never had a hangover with a massive migraine like I've had over here. Proof of this is the shelf life of beer. Over here 6 months, in Germany 8 weeks!!!!

Those chemicals can't be good for you.

Smaller brewers are best for pure drink.

Bottom line is. Don't drink everyday, and don't drink too much. Start by saying I'm not having a drink today once a week. Then change that to every other day. Pretty soon you will be able to decide when you have a drink. Easier said than done I know, but trying to stick to the drive limit also works. 2 pints tops.

Good luck to anyone who has a drinking problem I know how hard is is to stop.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Sep 22 11.57pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

At 64 I've lost a number of friends though drink. I was on that slippery slope myself until I got a job with a company car where I had to drive every week day and some weekends.

As it stays in your body for some time it made it a career ending choice. Cut back drastically or lose my licence and thus my job.

I actually believe it saved my life.

I lost my best man last month. He was younger than me and had cirrhosis from the age of 50. Thus he had to give up or die. He died from cancer last month having been unable to work (or drink) since he was 50. He was an everyday drinker as well.

I lost a builder friend and neighbour a few years ago who, due to drink had high BP. He had two episodes where he ended up in hospital and was told to reduce his drinking drastically but continued.

He had a stroke and died at the age of 48.

Around 10 years ago I lost a mate who had a triple bypass op and then went from the hospital to the pub to celebrate!

Six months later he had a massive heart attack in a taxi when he returned from a bender on a stag weekend in Prague. He was 61.

Some drink is worse than others, drinking an excess of cider regularly for example will lead to cirrhosis for sure.

Now I tend to drink for pleasure. Not to get pissed.

I enjoy a brandy, a gin and tonic, lager and the odd fruit cider. Not at the same time!

One thing I have found re. hangovers is that the amount of chemicals put in some of our drink contributes massively to a headache. I have had a lot of drink regularly in Germany (not driving whilst on training courses) and I can honestly say I've never had a hangover with a massive migraine like I've had over here. Proof of this is the shelf life of beer. Over here 6 months, in Germany 8 weeks!!!!

Those chemicals can't be good for you.

Smaller brewers are best for pure drink.

Bottom line is. Don't drink everyday, and don't drink too much. Start by saying I'm not having a drink today once a week. Then change that to every other day. Pretty soon you will be able to decide when you have a drink. Easier said than done I know, but trying to stick to the drive limit also works. 2 pints tops.

Good luck to anyone who has a drinking problem I know how hard is is to stop.

Unfortunately I can't even do that & after 14 years haven't touched a drop.
Towards the end I was having to pack a pint glass half full with Ice then half fill it with whatever liquor I'd been drinking the night before & top it up with Dry ginger ale/Coke whatever & If I filled it to full to the top I'd have to put one of those McDonald type fat straws into it & take a slurp because I was shaking so much. It really was (I'm guessing) like taking that hit of heroin & I could actually feel the booze hit me straight away, It was like being on a hamster wheel, Ironically my job means I go into pubs & bars maybe seven days a week, but I never get the urge to drink

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 12 Sep 22 12.30am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Unfortunately I can't even do that & after 14 years haven't touched a drop.
Towards the end I was having to pack a pint glass half full with Ice then half fill it with whatever liquor I'd been drinking the night before & top it up with Dry ginger ale/Coke whatever & If I filled it to full to the top I'd have to put one of those McDonald type fat straws into it & take a slurp because I was shaking so much. It really was (I'm guessing) like taking that hit of heroin & I could actually feel the booze hit me straight away, It was like being on a hamster wheel, Ironically my job means I go into pubs & bars maybe seven days a week, but I never get the urge to drink

At least you got through it which must've taken some doing. Glad it worked out for you.

 

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Don't usually drink Monday-Thursday, but then "treat" myself Friday -Sunday.
I am currently on a month dry. I do this at least once a year.
Was asked why by one of my mates at the weekend. My reply was that in the last 6 weeks there has been at least one day a week when I can't remember getting home.
Feel much better for not drinking, more energy, and obviously don't get the booze blues on a Monday morning.

Ironically the first weekend I will have a drink will be when me and a load of mates go on our annual golf trip to commemorate the life of another good friend, who died of a heart attack a few years back, mainly attributed to drinking.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 12 Sep 22 9.54am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Unfortunately I can't even do that & after 14 years haven't touched a drop.
Towards the end I was having to pack a pint glass half full with Ice then half fill it with whatever liquor I'd been drinking the night before & top it up with Dry ginger ale/Coke whatever & If I filled it to full to the top I'd have to put one of those McDonald type fat straws into it & take a slurp because I was shaking so much. It really was (I'm guessing) like taking that hit of heroin & I could actually feel the booze hit me straight away, It was like being on a hamster wheel, Ironically my job means I go into pubs & bars maybe seven days a week, but I never get the urge to drink

Great stuff Jimenez, good to hear and kudos. I've been sober a while myself now.

Very interesting to read some of the posts on here, can't help but think the drinking culture in this country has changed somewhat over the past few decades.

As a contextually younger man I notice many of my contemporaries have far different drinking habits now to what I was certainly accustom to growing up. I was very much the kid with a lucozade/coke and a packet of crisps on a bench outside the pub. In fact, our local was jokingly referred to as 'Church' given everybody would be there on a Sunday. Come to think of it most Friday nights, Saturdays and all through the week too!

I have noticed this change with newer generations. I think the stereotype of the pub being a safe-haven for men to flee too, a social hub for the community and a very much on the agenda pit stop for any outing are passing. I notice a lot of the younger generations have taken to drinking domestically, with things like 'poker nights' etc now being the focus. I think this stems from more and more going to university and that culture but also several other factors:

- Immigration and a lot of new 'cultures' within the UK not subscribing to what is a very British tradition.
- Just the bleeding price of the stuff in pubs now, far cheaper to drink at home
- Sports and other entertainment being widely available at home now
- Greater social taboo around drinking (publicly anyway)
- Social media: has anybody ever seen an 'account' or the likes for someone who just goes to the same pub regularly?
- Social media again - far easier to communicate, socialise and plan outings these days beyond just seeing who's down the battle.
- Just more things to do now... for everybody!
- Women have a lot more spending power these days too as opposed to years past. A far lower proportion of them would pick going down the rubber as a first choice for an outing.

As a result I believe we are seeing the decline of the pub, hard to find one without some gimmick attached today (food, quiz nights, live music, something else eccentric etc.) however it remains to be seen just how much an affect the new found drinking culture will have on these generations. My younger brother has swiftly exited his twenties, good job, regular gym goer, great shape, great missus, great life etc however his drinking is still very targeted in that he does it to get pissed but at designated times. You'd never know him to have a couple after work etc. Even the old man prefers his claret in doors these days as opposed to the pub although that rarely stops him finding one when he can!

For my two cents, whilst I think drinking habits have changed dramatically I'd be surprised to learn if the consumption has not risen let alone gone down. I don't miss drinking, I did enough to last me several lifetimes alongside other accoutrements, however the FA Cup final was one where I felt as though I was 'missing out'. Each to their own I say! I think there are still available some 14/15/16th century cartoons warning of the dangers of drinking and far more awareness (though not enough) around what can be used to diagnose 'alcoholics' these days and my hope is that people will soon start identifying that a lot sooner. I don't think the announcement of 'Alcohol bad in excess... don't drink all the time' should be a health revelation to anyone however it will still be a prominent cause for concern for generations to come.

 


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Originally posted by Jacey

The PC brigade implore both sexes not to exceed 14 units per week.
Very difficult to comply and rather odd as the recommended limit has gradually been reduced from 28 units,down to 21 units,probably to protect the NHS.
My GP,who freely admitted to drinking like a fish,recommended two consecutive dry nights per week,if you consistently drink to excess,which sounds sensible.
Personally,seem to be drinking around two large glasses of red wine a day as this allows me to keep my weight in check without needing to diet or over exercise.
Each to his own.Cheers!!

By PC brigade I assume you mean the medical profession?

I used to enjoy rum in the summer and G + Ts. I could generally moderate the rum but the gin. We would have bloody strong ones and keep drinking till the fever trees were finished, not when we had enough.. and then share a bottle of wine on top.

And beer? I feel my body no longer processes beer as it used to. A few cold ones in hot weather or a couple of pints out is now my limit.

But wine. Now reduced to the Saturday binge of 3 bottles shared. And I bet that will drop to 2.

Sad really.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Sep 22 10.53pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

similar to cigarettes.....moderation is more difficult than total abstinence.

been totally dry for 5 years and i do not even miss it. Even the quitting itself was surprisingly easy. I just planned to stop, stopped and thought 'feck, that was easy'

Previously , had i been sozzled for four evenings....if the fifth day was dry, i was grumpy as hell.

my advice ? either drink yourself to death, or stay totally dry.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (12 Sep 2022 10.56pm)

 


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Originally posted by The groover

At 64 I've lost a number of friends though drink. I was on that slippery slope myself until I got a job with a company car where I had to drive every week day and some weekends.

As it stays in your body for some time it made it a career ending choice. Cut back drastically or lose my licence and thus my job.

I actually believe it saved my life.

I lost my best man last month. He was younger than me and had cirrhosis from the age of 50. Thus he had to give up or die. He died from cancer last month having been unable to work (or drink) since he was 50. He was an everyday drinker as well.

I lost a builder friend and neighbour a few years ago who, due to drink had high BP. He had two episodes where he ended up in hospital and was told to reduce his drinking drastically but continued.

He had a stroke and died at the age of 48.

Around 10 years ago I lost a mate who had a triple bypass op and then went from the hospital to the pub to celebrate!

Six months later he had a massive heart attack in a taxi when he returned from a bender on a stag weekend in Prague. He was 61.

Some drink is worse than others, drinking an excess of cider regularly for example will lead to cirrhosis for sure.

Now I tend to drink for pleasure. Not to get pissed.

I enjoy a brandy, a gin and tonic, lager and the odd fruit cider. Not at the same time!

One thing I have found re. hangovers is that the amount of chemicals put in some of our drink contributes massively to a headache. I have had a lot of drink regularly in Germany (not driving whilst on training courses) and I can honestly say I've never had a hangover with a massive migraine like I've had over here. Proof of this is the shelf life of beer. Over here 6 months, in Germany 8 weeks!!!!

Those chemicals can't be good for you.

Smaller brewers are best for pure drink.

Bottom line is. Don't drink everyday, and don't drink too much. Start by saying I'm not having a drink today once a week. Then change that to every other day. Pretty soon you will be able to decide when you have a drink. Easier said than done I know, but trying to stick to the drive limit also works. 2 pints tops.

Good luck to anyone who has a drinking problem I know how hard is is to stop.

excellent post, groover.

 


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I'm on my way into town now. Taking one (or two) for the team.

 


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I have cut down massively on drink the last few months! I really notice the difference in starting to fit into my old jeans and jackets again!

I discovered a love for IPA's during the lockdowns.

 

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I used to drink a couple of cans of beer a night but stopped a few months ago because my sleep was constantly disturbed by toilet visits, snoring and whatever. I also felt rough the next day if I drank an extra beer or tow. I have surprised myself at how I really donít miss it. I do still have the odd beer when out but very rarely now.

Edited by premier fan (16 Sep 2022 5.07pm)

 

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Originally posted by The groover

At 64 I've lost a number of friends though drink. I was on that slippery slope myself until I got a job with a company car where I had to drive every week day and some weekends.

As it stays in your body for some time it made it a career ending choice. Cut back drastically or lose my licence and thus my job.

I actually believe it saved my life.

I lost my best man last month. He was younger than me and had cirrhosis from the age of 50. Thus he had to give up or die. He died from cancer last month having been unable to work (or drink) since he was 50. He was an everyday drinker as well.

I lost a builder friend and neighbour a few years ago who, due to drink had high BP. He had two episodes where he ended up in hospital and was told to reduce his drinking drastically but continued.

He had a stroke and died at the age of 48.

Around 10 years ago I lost a mate who had a triple bypass op and then went from the hospital to the pub to celebrate!

Six months later he had a massive heart attack in a taxi when he returned from a bender on a stag weekend in Prague. He was 61.

Some drink is worse than others, drinking an excess of cider regularly for example will lead to cirrhosis for sure.

Now I tend to drink for pleasure. Not to get pissed.

I enjoy a brandy, a gin and tonic, lager and the odd fruit cider. Not at the same time!

One thing I have found re. hangovers is that the amount of chemicals put in some of our drink contributes massively to a headache. I have had a lot of drink regularly in Germany (not driving whilst on training courses) and I can honestly say I've never had a hangover with a massive migraine like I've had over here. Proof of this is the shelf life of beer. Over here 6 months, in Germany 8 weeks!!!!

Those chemicals can't be good for you.

Smaller brewers are best for pure drink.

Bottom line is. Don't drink everyday, and don't drink too much. Start by saying I'm not having a drink today once a week. Then change that to every other day. Pretty soon you will be able to decide when you have a drink. Easier said than done I know, but trying to stick to the drive limit also works. 2 pints tops.

Good luck to anyone who has a drinking problem I know how hard is is to stop.


Interesting about the hangovers linked to chemicals - what lager would you recommend?

 

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