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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 12 Oct 22 8.36am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Is Olise completely fit?
His injury last season was all shrouded in secrecy and he was out a long time.
I love watching him. He always does the unexpected. Furthermore, I don’t think he is big and strong enough for the top teams, they call it physicality’, so hopefully he may be around for a while.

I beg to differ on that score. He reminds me of Andros in that he will invariably cut inside onto his left foot, which can be easy to read. There was one occasion in Sunday's match where he went outside and in went the cross. He needs to do this more often in order to make him more difficult to predict.

With left foot crosses and dead ball situations, there are few better: deadly when he's on it.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 12 Oct 22 10.57am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

To me he looks slightly nervous of getting tackled, often jumping out the way before a tackle arrives. Undoubtedly a great talent but maybe just needs a bit more confidence that he won't break, which hopefully will come with games. I've said it elsewhere, but I'd also like to see Ebiowei get some game time as he looked a real threat in preseason.

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 12 Oct 22 11.06am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

100% agree.

Broadly speaking we now have 3 matchwinners in our starting 11. Zaha, Olise and Eze.

Of course they need to do their bit defensively, and get involved as much as they can with general play. But ultimately we need them to win us games. So we should be a little more accepting if they 'go missing' at times, as long as they deliver when needed.

On Sunday Olise and Zaha grabbed assists and Eze scored the winner, so they are holding up their end of the bargain

I think this is my point. Against Leeds 1st half all 3 went missing. We were lucky not to have been 2 down at half time and the game already lost. If Leeds can do that to us, better teams will do it too.

We did look better in the 2nd half when Olise went right and Zaha got into the game, however, Olise himself did very little in that period until he was subbed, i think the improvement was more down to the centre being beefed up to stop Leeds running the show.

Also worth pointing out it was Ayew who won the freekick for our 1st goal - this part of his game rarely gets any credit.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 12 Oct 22 11.40am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by aashman12

Eze has 1 goal, he's far from being labelled a match winner.

He's also got 2 assists this season.

But he needs to improve his output, of course he does. PV will know that and Eze will know that. He's got the ability to be a double digit scorer.

My macro point was about the fact that we need to make allowances for the guys who are going to win us games

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 12 Oct 22 11.43am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

I think this is my point. Against Leeds 1st half all 3 went missing. We were lucky not to have been 2 down at half time and the game already lost. If Leeds can do that to us, better teams will do it too.

We did look better in the 2nd half when Olise went right and Zaha got into the game, however, Olise himself did very little in that period until he was subbed, i think the improvement was more down to the centre being beefed up to stop Leeds running the show.

Also worth pointing out it was Ayew who won the freekick for our 1st goal - this part of his game rarely gets any credit.

I think everyone went missing to be fair.

PV will know that this new team selection is a bit of a risk, lots of players who are good in possession. Not many good at winning back possession.

It relies on us getting and holding he ball or periods of time.

IMHO its a bit too adventurous, but I like that he is showing confidence in his team selection.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 12 Oct 22 11.45am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

He's also got 2 assists this season.

But he needs to improve his output, of course he does. PV will know that and Eze will know that. He's got the ability to be a double digit scorer.

My macro point was about the fact that we need to make allowances for the guys who are going to win us games

Exactly, take away his defensive responsibility's, give him a free role, two DMs Jedinak and Digakoi style, and two fullbacks that can overlap, Schlupp/Mitchell and AWB

 


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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 12 Oct 22 6.44pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

"Exactly, take away his defensive responsibility's, give him a free role"

What would he be doing when the other team are in possession?
Stand around and watch? He does a bit of that already. If anything he has to increase his defensive responsibility, then we may win possession, upon which he can use his talent when he receives the ball.

 

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View Talvlad's Profile Talvlad Flag Streatham 12 Oct 22 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Talvlad Add Talvlad as a friend

This might be a bit off the wall but...

I think this season we will struggle but next season, without Wilf, we will be ok...

... Not because we don't need Wilf, he's amazing... but because of balance...

The future is Eze wide left, Olise wide right.. Both players cut in from those positions and a transfer signing tackling midfielder (not Gallagher sadly) as Dacoure badly needs a partner in the midfield engine room.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 12 Oct 22 9.31pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

"Exactly, take away his defensive responsibility's, give him a free role"

What would he be doing when the other team are in possession?
Stand around and watch? He does a bit of that already. If anything he has to increase his defensive responsibility, then we may win possession, upon which he can use his talent when he receives the ball.

He would be taking up positions to receive the ball when we regain positions and start an attack instead of being wasted in his own third, are you really that thick

 


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Regain 'possession ' . Not sure you are in a 'position' to start calling people thick.

 

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View OneMax's Profile OneMax Flag Maidstone 13 Oct 22 3.15pm Send a Private Message to OneMax Add OneMax as a friend

Originally posted by glazedallover

Regain 'possession ' . Not sure you are in a 'position' to start calling people thick.

Harsh but fair comment

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 13 Oct 22 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by OneMax

Harsh but fair comment

B******s

 


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