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View FrankieD108's Profile FrankieD108 Flag 30 Oct 22 10.07am Send a Private Message to FrankieD108 Add FrankieD108 as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

Saints fans are an odd bunch.

A lot of them mouthing off and squaring up to our fans near the station totally unprovoked

Didn't see that but got a chuckle over the three Southampton boys in their 20s behind me approaching the station who were heard to say: "Well. That was a waste of a trip. Now we have to spend two to three hours getting back to our s***hole of a town."

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 30 Oct 22 10.13am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I was sitting a few rows back from Vieira yesterday and as Southampton got on top in the second half Vieira was imploring our attacking players to come back and assist in alleviating the pressure.
I've never seen him so animated on the touchline.
When Eze made a sloppy pass (and didn't chase back) which could have led to a Southampton equaliser he was substituted almost straight away.
Vieira has certain principles about how he wants the game played meaning 433 with one number 6 and two number 8s in midfield.
We could see yesterday that was fine in the first half when Southampton stood off us.
However, in the second half the system was exposed as Southampton stepped up their game which forced Vieira into the more defensive substitutions.
I remain of the view that we currently don't have the midfield options to play Vieira's preferred system as admirable as the principles may be.

Originally posted by palace chick

Southampton changed how they were playing from the start of the second half and pressed us like Everton did the week before. Luckily we got away with it and should have made those substitutions earlier to strengthen our midfield. PV seems to like to play with just one central midfielder which worked in the first half as Southampton didnít press us. I can only see problems ahead if we continue with just one central midfielder? But, well done Luka yesterday as he like Dacoure does carried our midfield in the first half and then played well with Hughes and Reidewald alongside in the second half after they came on.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Oct 22 10.17am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Got back very late from the game last night so have only now read (most of) the comments on this thread.

Some thoughts:
1. I sit in the Glazier stand and so for once got to see most of the action close-up.
2. It was the best 1st half I've seen us play this season.
3. Our front 4/5 pressed strongly throughout that half and didn't allow Soton time on the ball. We regularly won back possession quickly and kept the opposition under constant pressure.
4. Unfortunately, our final ball was often poor. We really should have been out of sight by half-time.
5. The Premier League is the toughest in the world and most teams aren't able to control games throughout. It was no surprise when Soton started the 2nd half at a higher tempo and pressed us high up (they hadn't done that 1st half for the simple reason we rarely gave them the chance to play in our half).
6. The substitutions made sense to me at least. We had to stop Soton driving forward centrally and the arrival of Hughes to support Luka achieved that with both Ayew and Riedewald adding additional midfield strength.
7. Like many on this site, my heart sank when I saw Doucoure wasn't going to play and that we would be relying on Luka for that role. HOWEVER, Luka had a decent game IMHO, especially with his finding space to receive the ball and make forward passes. He also avoided giving away his customary free kick in Ward-Prowse territory. A shame he claimed captain's privilege for the one potentially dangerous free-kick we had 1st half.
8. I am disappointed that so many on here have been so negative about our performances over the last month. We've collected 10 points from the last 5 games. We're clearly doing enough right to have achieved that return - Yes it would be good to see a game where we win comfortably - but come on guys THIS IS PALACE, we rarely win games comfortably. THREE home wins on the bounce is worth celebrating.

Edited by doombear (30 Oct 2022 10.18am)

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 30 Oct 22 10.20am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Were you walking towards Norwood Junction at the time (left hand side of the road, about 400 yards before you turn into station road) because I thought I heard the same conversation.

Originally posted by FrankieD108

Didn't see that but got a chuckle over the three Southampton boys in their 20s behind me approaching the station who were heard to say: "Well. That was a waste of a trip. Now we have to spend two to three hours getting back to our s***hole of a town."

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Oct 22 10.22am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

One final thought - the behaviour of a good number of Soton fans during the minute's silence before the game when the last post was being played was disgusting.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 30 Oct 22 10.28am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I was sitting a few rows back from Vieira yesterday and as Southampton got on top in the second half Vieira was imploring our attacking players to come back and assist in alleviating the pressure.
I've never seen him so animated on the touchline.
When Eze made a sloppy pass (and didn't chase back) which could have led to a Southampton equaliser he was substituted almost straight away.
Vieira has certain principles about how he wants the game played meaning 433 with one number 6 and two number 8s in midfield.
We could see yesterday that was fine in the first half when Southampton stood off us.
However, in the second half the system was exposed as Southampton stepped up their game which forced Vieira into the more defensive substitutions.
I remain of the view that we currently don't have the midfield options to play Vieira's preferred system as admirable as the principles may be.

Ah, this must be the incident I refer to in my post above. Really hope PV gives him a grilling in training about playing for the team. Actually, when the going gets tough and everyone has to muck in with the defensive duties, there are a couple of players in our team who don't pull their weight. I'm more than happy to see PV substitute them.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Oct 22 10.50am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

At the end of the game, PV had his arm around Ebs as they walked towards the Holmesdale. That suggested to me that he was showing Ebs some love after having substituted him like he did.

A more clinical team than Palace would have had the points in the bag by half time. One goal was scant reward for the way we took the game to them.

I was pleased by the way we kept our concentration in the second half when Southampton were on top. I was waiting for the clumsy foul on the edge of our area and the resulting JWP free kick, but thankfully it never came.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Oct 22 11.06am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

One final thought - the behaviour of a good number of Soton fans during the minute's silence before the game when the last post was being played was disgusting.

Agreed. Absolute silence was adhered to by all sections of the ground with the exception of a few idiots, although to be fair they were getting shushed by their own fans.

Quite a few positives from yesterday.

1) we didnít start slowly which has been a problem all season.
2) we looked dangerous every time we went forward until the final ball. This needs to be worked on.
3) Mitchell and Milo were a lot better than the last game.
4) we saw out a 1-0 lead to win the game and in particular didnít allow the opposition to score in the last 10 minutes of the game, late goals being another common area of weakness.
5) Guaita looks the most assured that I have ever seen. Positive under the crosses and lightning quick to get down to a couple of near post saves. He was definitely MoM.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Oct 22 11.11am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

At the end of the game, PV had his arm around Ebs as they walked towards the Holmesdale. That suggested to me that he was showing Ebs some love after having substituted him like he did.

A more clinical team than Palace would have had the points in the bag by half time. One goal was scant reward for the way we took the game to them.

I was pleased by the way we kept our concentration in the second half when Southampton were on top. I was waiting for the clumsy foul on the edge of our area and the resulting JWP free kick, but thankfully it never came.

Yes NEILLO!

That premonition haunted me for the last 30 mins yesterday ha.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag Cahir 30 Oct 22 11.23am Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Got back very late from the game last night so have only now read (most of) the comments on this thread.

Some thoughts:
1. I sit in the Glazier stand and so for once got to see most of the action close-up.
2. It was the best 1st half I've seen us play this season.
3. Our front 4/5 pressed strongly throughout that half and didn't allow Soton time on the ball. We regularly won back possession quickly and kept the opposition under constant pressure.
4. Unfortunately, our final ball was often poor. We really should have been out of sight by half-time.
5. The Premier League is the toughest in the world and most teams aren't able to control games throughout. It was no surprise when Soton started the 2nd half at a higher tempo and pressed us high up (they hadn't done that 1st half for the simple reason we rarely gave them the chance to play in our half).
6. The substitutions made sense to me at least. We had to stop Soton driving forward centrally and the arrival of Hughes to support Luka achieved that with both Ayew and Riedewald adding additional midfield strength.
7. Like many on this site, my heart sank when I saw Doucoure wasn't going to play and that we would be relying on Luka for that role. HOWEVER, Luka had a decent game IMHO, especially with his finding space to receive the ball and make forward passes. He also avoided giving away his customary free kick in Ward-Prowse territory. A shame he claimed captain's privilege for the one potentially dangerous free-kick we had 1st half.
8. I am disappointed that so many on here have been so negative about our performances over the last month. We've collected 10 points from the last 5 games. We're clearly doing enough right to have achieved that return - Yes it would be good to see a game where we win comfortably - but come on guys THIS IS PALACE, we rarely win games comfortably. THREE home wins on the bounce is worth celebrating.

Edited by doombear (30 Oct 2022 10.18am)

A very good and fair assesment of the match tactics and Palace in general. Hey twould be boring if we won every match . We have 2 away games in a row now lets hope we can get our first away win on the season . COYP

 


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View FrankieD108's Profile FrankieD108 Flag 30 Oct 22 5.39pm Send a Private Message to FrankieD108 Add FrankieD108 as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Were you walking towards Norwood Junction at the time (left hand side of the road, about 400 yards before you turn into station road) because I thought I heard the same conversation.

Indeed I was! As we all know, seeing your club lose brings out the frustration!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 30 Oct 22 6.01pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by FrankieD108

Indeed I was! As we all know, seeing your club lose brings out the frustration!

Tbh Southampton is that s*** hole they were speaking about. Worked, been footy and drank there. They are spot on

 

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