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View cROYdonrogers's Profile cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 05 Dec 22 11.10am Send a Private Message to cROYdonrogers Add cROYdonrogers as a friend

I just don’t get the hype let alone the £100m price tag. What am I missing?
A decent player.Premiership standard yes.However goes sideways and backwards on majority of occasions Points a lot. Reminds me of dear old Ray Wilkins on that score.
He may have done the odd great thing but so too have Andros and Jordan Ayew.

 

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View fish mitten's Profile fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 05 Dec 22 11.26am Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

Have to agree on this one. A decent defensive midfielder, but no great passing range, not a lot in the way in surging runs and not many goals. I certainly would want a lot more for the money West Ham seem to think he's worth. But then may be he isn't as no one's been prepared to pay it yet.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Dec 22 12.41pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by fish mitten

Have to agree on this one. A decent defensive midfielder, but no great passing range, not a lot in the way in surging runs and not many goals. I certainly would want a lot more for the money West Ham seem to think he's worth. But then may be he isn't as no one's been prepared to pay it yet.

90.5% pass completion last season which was 2nd amongst midfielders, 2nd only to Rodri.

Top 5 in the league for tackles and interceptions last year.

Ranked first in Europe's top 5 leagues for yards carried with the ball.

His role for England is different in that they don't ask him to drive the ball up the pitch as much, but he did it more than anyone in Europe last season at club level, combined with being an exceptional tackler and passer.

Struggle to see how anyone doesn't rate him - he's exceptional at nearly every part of the game.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 05 Dec 22 12.42pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

He wouldn't be any where close to 100M if he'd decided to pull on an Ireland shirt. Therein lies the answer.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Dec 22 12.46pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

It's pretty bizarre that we as Palace fans are so fixated on the '£100m' - it's exactly the approach we took with Zaha where you slap a massive price tag on a player in the hope it puts people off bidding.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Dec 22 1.20pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

90.5% pass completion last season which was 2nd amongst midfielders, 2nd only to Rodri.

Top 5 in the league for tackles and interceptions last year.

Ranked first in Europe's top 5 leagues for yards carried with the ball.

His role for England is different in that they don't ask him to drive the ball up the pitch as much, but he did it more than anyone in Europe last season at club level, combined with being an exceptional tackler and passer.

Struggle to see how anyone doesn't rate him - he's exceptional at nearly every part of the game.

Have to say I absolutely agree.

I think he is a terrific player, perfect for that holding midfield role. My brother, who has a particular distaste for WHU, kept commenting in one of our games (cannot recall which one now) every time Rice was in the 'right place/right time'. It happened astonishingly frequently. He's got a physical presence, comfortable on or moving with the ball and a good 'footballing brain'. I think we are blessed to have both him and Bellingham in the middle as they are both superb players. Look at the alternatives, would you rather Kalvin Phillips there? Not even close to DR.

£100mil is about the going rate there days. Young, being English probably helps, proven PL + Int'l experience and a very, very good player. I must admit I was disinclined to jump on the bandwagon when he emerged for various reasons but the evidence has been demonstrated quite clearly IMHO.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Dec 22 2.08pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I recognise Declan Rice's strengths and appreciate the qualities he brings to both W.Ham and England.

He played as a centre-half in the Chelsea Academy and it is the model of plausibility that he could well be deployed in this position on a regular basis much later in his career.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 05 Dec 22 2.47pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

You might as well start a thread on virtually any footballer on the premise that their 'price tag' is ridiculous. The price of a player - like the price of a property or a business or a tin of beans - is whatever the buyer is prepared to pay and the seller is prepared to accept.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 05 Dec 22 2.54pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Completely overrated his pass completion is so good as its about 5 yards back or side, when we beat them three games ago you hardly knew he has playing, and we are not the greatest midfield.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Dec 22 3.35pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Completely overrated his pass completion is so good as its about 5 yards back or side, when we beat them three games ago you hardly knew he has playing, and we are not the greatest midfield.

Ranked 7th best midfielder in the league for progressive passes completed last season.

Completed 203 out of 258 attempted long balls which is a completion rate of 78.7% - yet another stat he finds himself in the top 10 in the country for.

Are we really going to argue that a guy with these type of numbers is not a complete midfielder?

- Top 1 for ball carrying
- Top 2 for pass completion
- Top 3 for interceptions and tackles
- Top 7 for successful passes forward
- Top 10 for long ball success


Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (05 Dec 2022 3.38pm)

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 05 Dec 22 3.39pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Ranked 7th best midfielder in the league for progressive passes completed last season.

Completed 203 out of 258 attempted long balls which is a completion rate of 78.7% - yet another stat he finds himself in the top 10 in the country for.

Yeah, yeah but Lanzo has been spoilt by the quality of Luka and Kouyaté.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Dec 22 3.46pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Yeah, yeah but Lanzo has been spoilt by the quality of Luka and Kouyaté.

Probably a good way to put some perspective on the numbers!

Palace midfielders last season:

Conor Gallagher - 60 progressive passes completed / 74.9% pass completion

James McCarthur - 59 progressive passes completed / 82.2% pass completion

Cheikou Kouyate - 39 progressive passes completed / 81.6% pass completion

vs

Declan Rice - 147 progressive passes completed / 90.4% pass completion

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (05 Dec 2022 3.46pm)

 

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