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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 14 Jan 23 8.39am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Pulis told his players to fight to stay in the game at all costs.
At 1-0 down you were still in it - more than that and game over.
He did it without Zaha as well!
If we Get hammered tomorrow I believe PV is toast.
Not fair on him but the harsh reality is that we cannot afford to go down.
Dyche will be the short term solution.
Not pretty but who cares.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 14 Jan 23 9.05am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

If I was a betting man I would suggest that DF has been to Belgium, France & Brazil quite a few times in the last 6 months - Would be nice (if from one of those trips) he could pull a midfield rabbit out of the hat sometime this month, although I feel that if he was going to do so we would have seen the player by now -

Originally posted by Uphill

We need new players and am worried that Freedman is not unearthing any talent. We need the Brentford equivalent to find the stars like with Benarama, Toney, etc from lower divisions.

 

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View PalaceDevon's Profile PalaceDevon Flag Tiverton 14 Jan 23 11.45am Send a Private Message to PalaceDevon Add PalaceDevon as a friend

We will be relegated if we do not do something about our midfield and forward line

We need to look for someone to score goals from anywhere in the world as ANY cost if we are to stay up

We need also to sort out the midfield

PV is in cloud cuckoo land and someone needs either to sack him him or take him to one side and explain that the PL is the ONLY place to play football in UK and we need to be there.

If we are relegated I do not see how we will EVER get back up.

Let's return to the Palace we know. Strong defence and break away.

 


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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 14 Jan 23 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by PalaceDevon

We will be relegated if we do not do something about our midfield and forward line

We need to look for someone to score goals from anywhere in the world as ANY cost if we are to stay up

We need also to sort out the midfield

PV is in cloud cuckoo land and someone needs either to sack him him or take him to one side and explain that the PL is the ONLY place to play football in UK and we need to be there.

If we are relegated I do not see how we will EVER get back up.

Let's return to the Palace we know. Strong defence and break away.

Agreed,the PV. experiment, will deemed to have failed if we lose yet again tomorrow.Chelsea are in chaos under Potter and we must and should win tomorrow.Otherwise,we need a change of manager to urgently address our slide it we are to stay in this leag.

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 14 Jan 23 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

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Originally posted by Jacey

Agreed,the PV. experiment, will deemed to have failed if we lose yet again tomorrow.Chelsea are in chaos under Potter and we must and should win tomorrow.Otherwise,we need a change of manager to urgently address our slide it we are to stay in this league.

 

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View Vectis's Profile Vectis Flag 14 Jan 23 12.22pm Send a Private Message to Vectis Add Vectis as a friend

PalaceDevon sums it up well. As I previously mentioned, Vieira only played in teams where he was surrounded with other top quality players. With those personnel you can play an expansive passing game. His vision of how the game should be played is influenced by that and thatís great and commendable. But Palace simply do not have enough of that quality of players, now in the past and for the foreseeable future. This led previous managers like Pulis, Allardyce and Hodgson, who all had previous experience of successful relegation battles to take a more pragmatic approach. It might not be as entertaining, but it is effective.

Pulis massively improving set play outcomes, big Samís mantra of Ďrespect the pointí being examples of that approach. Personally I donít mind the tactics being a bit boring if the outcome is a win. Remember the Ďboring, boringí Arsenal chant when they kept churning out 1-0 wins and league championships and cup wins?

Itís all very well being entertaining, but when you lose 4-5 to Swansea away, as we did under Pardew, then it becomes a bit of a waste of time. Speaking of Swansea, I remember our chairman extolling their virtues a few years back, with their passing football and style being something Palace should be aiming towards. Remind me where are Swansea these days? I bet their supporters would happily swap their current situation for staying in the Premier League by adopting a more pragmatic style of football when they had a chance

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 14 Jan 23 12.22pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

Agreed,the PV. experiment, will deemed to have failed if we lose yet again tomorrow.Chelsea are in chaos under Potter and we must and should win tomorrow.Otherwise,we need a change of manager to urgently address our slide it we are to stay in this leag.

One battle against a superior force does not mean the end the war.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 14 Jan 23 12.38pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Vectis

PalaceDevon sums it up well. As I previously mentioned, Vieira only played in teams where he was surrounded with other top quality players. With those personnel you can play an expansive passing game. His vision of how the game should be played is influenced by that and thatís great and commendable. But Palace simply do not have enough of that quality of players, now in the past and for the foreseeable future. This led previous managers like Pulis, Allardyce and Hodgson, who all had previous experience of successful relegation battles to take a more pragmatic approach. It might not be as entertaining, but it is effective.

Pulis massively improving set play outcomes, big Samís mantra of Ďrespect the pointí being examples of that approach. Personally I donít mind the tactics being a bit boring if the outcome is a win. Remember the Ďboring, boringí Arsenal chant when they kept churning out 1-0 wins and league championships and cup wins?

Itís all very well being entertaining, but when you lose 4-5 to Swansea away, as we did under Pardew, then it becomes a bit of a waste of time. Speaking of Swansea, I remember our chairman extolling their virtues a few years back, with their passing football and style being something Palace should be aiming towards. Remind me where are Swansea these days? I bet their supporters would happily swap their current situation for staying in the Premier League by adopting a more pragmatic style of football when they had a chance

Dropped out of the EPL after losing top players like Sigurdsson and Michu.

Edited by Booted Eagle (14 Jan 2023 12.40pm)

 


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View CPFC Dartford's Profile CPFC Dartford Flag Dartford 14 Jan 23 12.53pm Send a Private Message to CPFC Dartford Add CPFC Dartford as a friend

The truth is Chelsea being poor isnít far away from us being good. Their reserves would give us a good game. Gallagher was our player of the season and is effectively a Chelsea reserve. Iím not that confident at all about tomorrow. Itís not really Vieiraís fault or the players, itís the sheer expense that it takes to even compete in the Premier league, even after 10 years we are still a very small fish. Yes Patrick can make a few mistakes with selection or formation but he hasnít got an awful lot to work with. Palace still amaze and impress me with the continued run of seasons in the top flight and Iím still loving the journey.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 14 Jan 23 12.56pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC Dartford

The truth is Chelsea being poor isnít far away from us being good. Their reserves would give us a good game. Gallagher was our player of the season and is effectively a Chelsea reserve. Iím not that confident at all about tomorrow. Itís not really Vieiraís fault or the players, itís the sheer expense that it takes to even compete in the Premier league, even after 10 years we are still a very small fish. Yes Patrick can make a few mistakes with selection or formation but he hasnít got an awful lot to work with. Palace still amaze and impress me with the continued run of seasons in the top flight and Iím still loving the journey.

I think what's galling is when we stop even trying to compete, particularly against the likes of Fulham, Southampton, Forest, Leicester....

 


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View CPFC Dartford's Profile CPFC Dartford Flag Dartford 14 Jan 23 1.03pm Send a Private Message to CPFC Dartford Add CPFC Dartford as a friend

Originally posted by YT

I think the central midfield with Gallagher and Jimmy missing this year has been huge. Thereís no engine in there any more. I donít believe the players arenít trying.

I think what's galling is when we stop even trying to compete, particularly against the likes of Fulham, Southampton, Forest, Leicester....

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 14 Jan 23 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

I personally think there are players in the lower leagues with good engines and tenacity. After all they play far more football than we do in the PL. itís down to Dougie to go sort it. We need an enforcer or two, that is his job to find them.

Take the pressure off Doucoure and Eze and we should flourish where we are currently struggling.

 

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