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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 09 Feb 23 7.01am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by viveasheagle

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Article just puts the figures on what our eyes are telling us about the performances this season.

It's a bit of a stupid thing to review the last 7 games as they included:

2 x United
Chelsea
Spurs
Newcastle Away
Bournemouth
Fulham

The only team below us we beat and got two respectable draws. Those below us are struggling to pick up points against weaker opposition. I'm not saying we're safe, but we haven't dropped points against anyone below us in those 7 games.

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 09 Feb 23 9.38am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

I forgot we are similar to southend..

I just pointed out they look like being next where did I say we are similar to Southend?

In 2010 we were minutes away from extinction. Having been there a few years before that. Lloyds wanted to sell the ground to developers.

Some people have really short memories.

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 09 Feb 23 9.40am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Leeds draw last night was a shock! However, having been 2-0 up it could have been worse.

That 3rd relegation spot looks like being a close one and could go down to the last games.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Feb 23 9.43am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

Leeds draw last night was a shock! However, having been 2-0 up it could have been worse.

That 3rd relegation spot looks like being a close one and could go down to the last games.

It's that time of year where the anxious waiting for the Palace miracle continues yet teams around us start resurrecting in biblical fashion.

Everton beating Arsenal.
Leeds taking a 2 goal lead at Old Trafford (albeit draw final result)

Whatever next?

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 23 9.52am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

It's that time of year where the anxious waiting for the Palace miracle continues yet teams around us start resurrecting in biblical fashion.

Everton beating Arsenal.
Leeds taking a 2 goal lead at Old Trafford (albeit draw final result)

Whatever next?

Should we beat Brighton on Saturday perhaps many will conclude a miracle had occurred.

Edited by Willo (09 Feb 2023 9.54am)

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 09 Feb 23 9.57am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

It's that time of year where the anxious waiting for the Palace miracle continues yet teams around us start resurrecting in biblical fashion.

Everton beating Arsenal.
Leeds taking a 2 goal lead at Old Trafford (albeit draw final result)

Whatever next?

Palace comfortably losing at home to a very much inform BHA,to increase our woes!!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 09 Feb 23 9.59am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

It's only a matter of time until Parish is out. His business model 'let me spend your money my way!' just hasn't and won't work... let's be realistic.

Anyone coming in will have larger shares and will want control.

Yup, Parish bought us on the cheap and with other blokes, invested but let's be real, he doesn't have the cash to run this club.

Palace won't be asset stripped - lol, what assets? and the land... lol that's a nightmare to redevelop as we all know.

A mega rich team need to come in and do things their way.

Otherwise we can go back down to the champ and Parish can stay and we challenge In the champ, benefitting from the academy... which, would be fine by me.

Going back to the Championship would be madness, this club would lose in excess of 121 mil income a year from TV broadcasting rights alone. The academy statistically cannot guarantee players even at championship level that would sustain the club or even its own future. I do agree with you about Parishonomics, what on earth is he thinking if he is realistically risking relegation for the redeveloped stadium which I believe is going to increase capacity by about 8000 and if by doing so you end up in the championship with crowds of 12-15k and the lost broadcasting revenue plus other EPL income from gates prize money sponsorships etc. I cannot understand the other investors allowing this to happen unless Parish is spinning them an incredible yarn that they are taking hook, line and sinker!

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Feb 23 10.26am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

It's only a matter of time until Parish is out. His business model 'let me spend your money my way!' just hasn't and won't work... let's be realistic.

Anyone coming in will have larger shares and will want control.

Yup, Parish bought us on the cheap and with other blokes, invested but let's be real, he doesn't have the cash to run this club.

Palace won't be asset stripped - lol, what assets? and the land... lol that's a nightmare to redevelop as we all know.

A mega rich team need to come in and do things their way.

Otherwise we can go back down to the champ and Parish can stay and we challenge In the champ, benefitting from the academy... which, would be fine by me.

Being realistic, that strategy has kept the club in the Premier League for 10 years. So I think you would have to say that it has worked.

But in those 10 years we have increasingly seen massive investments in clubs and the spending of astronomical amounts of money. Neither of which Palace have been able to keep up with. So from that perspective we have reached a glass ceiling.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Feb 23 10.37am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Going back to the Championship would be madness, this club would lose in excess of 121 mil income a year from TV broadcasting rights alone. The academy statistically cannot guarantee players even at championship level that would sustain the club or even its own future. I do agree with you about Parishonomics, what on earth is he thinking if he is realistically risking relegation for the redeveloped stadium which I believe is going to increase capacity by about 8000 and if by doing so you end up in the championship with crowds of 12-15k and the lost broadcasting revenue plus other EPL income from gates prize money sponsorships etc. I cannot understand the other investors allowing this to happen unless Parish is spinning them an incredible yarn that they are taking hook, line and sinker!

It's speculate to accumulate.

I think there's a consensus on here that Parish is overly cautious. So for him to want to press ahead with the new stand seems almost out of character.

But I think the club needs to make this decision. It does involve risk and yes it could backfire. We could do nothing, get relegated and have nothing new to offer while Selhurst continues to deteriorate.

I'm interested to recall Parish's words when Harris and Blitzer first came onboard ;

''The most important thing is the money that is available to invest in the infrastructure of the club," Parish told the London Evening Standard on Tuesday. "I should stress, this isn't for new players. We can manage that out of our own resources. This is to build the infrastructure of the club and to take it to the next level. "In effect, there will be more money available because the money that is currently diverted into those areas will instead be available for players. But it is not going to be a huge extra investment in players. "As much as we can, we will ring-fence the new investment for the infrastructure of the club, which most clubs don't have the luxury of."

I wonder how much of that applies today ?

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 09 Feb 23 12.40pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

It's that time of year where the anxious waiting for the Palace miracle continues yet teams around us start resurrecting in biblical fashion.

Everton beating Arsenal.
Leeds taking a 2 goal lead at Old Trafford (albeit draw final result)

Whatever next?


Palace beating Brighton at home for a change?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 23 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

It's speculate to accumulate.

I think there's a consensus on here that Parish is overly cautious. So for him to want to press ahead with the new stand seems almost out of character.

But I think the club needs to make this decision. It does involve risk and yes it could backfire. We could do nothing, get relegated and have nothing new to offer while Selhurst continues to deteriorate.

I'm interested to recall Parish's words when Harris and Blitzer first came onboard ;

''The most important thing is the money that is available to invest in the infrastructure of the club," Parish told the London Evening Standard on Tuesday. "I should stress, this isn't for new players. We can manage that out of our own resources. This is to build the infrastructure of the club and to take it to the next level. "In effect, there will be more money available because the money that is currently diverted into those areas will instead be available for players. But it is not going to be a huge extra investment in players. "As much as we can, we will ring-fence the new investment for the infrastructure of the club, which most clubs don't have the luxury of."

I wonder how much of that applies today ?

In general terms, when one is not privy to all salient information, conclusions that are drawn can be well wide of the mark.

Apropos caution, I am reminded of the words of a Chinese General who said, words to the effect, that an enlightened ruler is heedful and a good general is filled with caution.

Edited by Willo (09 Feb 2023 12.59pm)

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 09 Feb 23 3.29pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

I just pointed out they look like being next where did I say we are similar to Southend?

In 2010 we were minutes away from extinction. Having been there a few years before that. Lloyds wanted to sell the ground to developers.

Some people have really short memories.

Or some people are just blind to what's happening....

 


This was once a quality forum....

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