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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Jan 23 1.01pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

and a thought it should remain.

I Have a couple of Besiktas " The Black Eagles " friends in Istanbul .

They were delighted when DA arrived, soon wore off.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 18 Jan 23 1.26pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

and a thought it should remain.

I Have a couple of Besiktas " The Black Eagles " friends in Istanbul .

They were delighted when DA arrived, soon wore off.

That seems to align with everything I've read.

We'd be better off resigning Dele Adebola I'd suggest.

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 18 Jan 23 4.59pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

I'd have thought the answer would be a very obvious 'No Way'.

I do wonder what the issue is with Alli. I can't remember a better young player than him for many a long year (the best I've seen since Rooney), and now he is so, so bad that he is even stinking out the Turkish league where, lest we forget, even Sorloth scored goals.

It's so easy to label the guy. Bad attitude, too much money too soon, blah blah blah. The truth is none of us know why he has gone off the boil so drastically.

Life ain't simple.

 

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Sorloth scoring well in La Liga now

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Jan 23 9.54am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Sorloth scoring well in La Liga now

Fancy doing that. I thought Id managed to strike him from my memory for good until you posted.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jan 23 2.38pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Sorloth scoring well in La Liga now

Never knew it was such a poor standard.

 


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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 19 Jan 23 3.42pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Never knew it was such a poor standard.

Sorloth is what he is. He's found his level and carved out a pretty decent career, all things considered. The problem is, we hyped signing him by making out like we'd brought in the next Harry Kane (or whoever). When he turned out to be nothing more than a promising Scandinavian teenager who needed at least a couple of years' time to develop before contributing, we lost interest. If we'd been realistic from the start and paid a sensible amount for him he might have bedded in here and been a competent, if average, performer. But he never had a chance to do that. Bottom line is that he wasn't a good value signing and we made the problem worse by mishandling his development. His career after leaving us only underlines that. I've got nothing against the lad. The errors were all ours, not his.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 19 Jan 23 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Sorloth is what he is. He's found his level and carved out a pretty decent career, all things considered. The problem is, we hyped signing him by making out like we'd brought in the next Harry Kane (or whoever). When he turned out to be nothing more than a promising Scandinavian teenager who needed at least a couple of years' time to develop before contributing, we lost interest. If we'd been realistic from the start and paid a sensible amount for him he might have bedded in here and been a competent, if average, performer. But he never had a chance to do that. Bottom line is that he wasn't a good value signing and we made the problem worse by mishandling his development. His career after leaving us only underlines that. I've got nothing against the lad. The errors were all ours, not his.


It's all about the level. John Bostock was Player if the Year in the Belgian 2nd. Division.

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag UK/Thailand 19 Jan 23 4.50pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I'd have thought the answer would be a very obvious 'No Way'.

I do wonder what the issue is with Alli. I can't remember a better young player than him for many a long year (the best I've seen since Rooney), and now he is so, so bad that he is even stinking out the Turkish league where, lest we forget, even Sorloth scored goals.

It's so easy to label the guy. Bad attitude, too much money too soon, blah blah blah. The truth is none of us know why he has gone off the boil so drastically.

Life ain't simple.


The issue is players like him no matter the talent you have need to be blacklisted but they are not so what happens is they continue to be paid millions for nothing.

His attitude is the issue he believes he doesn't need to train and can do as he likes which as mentioned above he has been enabled to continue this.

Spurs documentary features his problems Jose tried all he could but the players wasn't interested so yes it is attitude.

Ravel was a far better player but had same issue attitude.


 


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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 19 Jan 23 9.00pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort

His attitude is the issue he believes he doesn't need to train and can do as he likes which as mentioned above he has been enabled to continue this.

This might be true, but I wonder. It seems to me that Alli just plain and simple fell out of love with football. He didn't suddenly decide he didn't NEED to train. The point is, he didn't WANT to train. There's a difference. But as the game was still prepared to throw obscene amounts of money at him in its determination to ignore this obvious truth (Everton bought him, after all), what was he supposed to do? Walk away and say no thanks to the millions? Alli is the monster that the money in the game has created. It blinds people to what's right in front of them.

 


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