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View AshfordEagle94's Profile AshfordEagle94 Flag Canterbury 21 Jan 23 9.29am Send a Private Message to AshfordEagle94 Add AshfordEagle94 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

The stats say he is our best goalscorer

This is true and normally I prefer Mateta. I think he has potential but needs a run of games to settle properly, as does Edouard most probably. However, Mateta's hold up play and ball control were incredibly poor against UTD and I think we are much more likely to get punished for that by Newcastle. If Mateta does start, I hope he proves me wrong and shows the Mateta I think he can be.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 21 Jan 23 10.33am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by AshfordEagle94

This is true and normally I prefer Mateta. I think he has potential but needs a run of games to settle properly, as does Edouard most probably. However, Mateta's hold up play and ball control were incredibly poor against UTD and I think we are much more likely to get punished for that by Newcastle. If Mateta does start, I hope he proves me wrong and shows the Mateta I think he can be.

He was awful against UTD, so was Edouard, i think he is a bit more physical, both are poor, i suspect PV may go with Ayew, solely to win the odd free kick, a sad situation, 30m spent on two CFs and 140k a week, not good value for money

 


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View AshfordEagle94's Profile AshfordEagle94 Flag Canterbury 21 Jan 23 11.10am Send a Private Message to AshfordEagle94 Add AshfordEagle94 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

He was awful against UTD, so was Edouard, i think he is a bit more physical, both are poor, i suspect PV may go with Ayew, solely to win the odd free kick, a sad situation, 30m spent on two CFs and 140k a week, not good value for money

The trouble is I can't quite tell how much is them being poor and how much is the way we play. we don't really put crosses in, and when we do they're late, and we don't play through balls. All of Zaha, Olise and Ayew tend to try and do too much and not pass quickly enough. I wonder if any striker could do well under those circumstances. I think we need to be quicker and not try to walk it in as often

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Jan 23 11.16am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by AshfordEagle94

The trouble is I can't quite tell how much is them being poor and how much is the way we play. we don't really put crosses in, and when we do they're late, and we don't play through balls. All of Zaha, Olise and Ayew tend to try and do too much and not pass quickly enough. I wonder if any striker could do well under those circumstances. I think we need to be quicker and not try to walk it in as often

If we move the ball with more alacrity the chances are we could be in a position whereby Olise is in a 1v1 situation with Dan Burn.Moving the ball with less haste will allow Newcastle to "Double-up" on Olise.

 

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View AshfordEagle94's Profile AshfordEagle94 Flag Canterbury 21 Jan 23 11.21am Send a Private Message to AshfordEagle94 Add AshfordEagle94 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

If we move the ball with more alacrity the chances are we could be in a position whereby Olise is in a 1v1 situation with Dan Burn.Moving the ball with less haste will allow Newcastle to "Double-up" on Olise.

This is exactly the sort of thing I mean. I like the way we play now but sometimes I miss the counter attacking. It's frustrating watching us give the opposition time to reset. similarly, if Olise and Zaha could put crosses in earlier with defenders still running back towards goal, it would give our attackers more of a chance and make the defenders more uncomfortable

 

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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 21 Jan 23 11.34am Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

A really tough fixture - I feel Newcastle are one of the best all round teams in the league. They have money, spent well and Howe has done an amazing job getting them to play his style of football.

As others have said, we need to play quick, attacking football. The early goal would really lift the crowd - and with a bit of luck, you never know….

Head says: 0-2 Newcastle
Heart says: 2-1 Palace

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Jan 23 11.42am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by VinceHilaire

A really tough fixture - I feel Newcastle are one of the best all round teams in the league. They have money, spent well and Howe has done an amazing job getting them to play his style of football.

As others have said, we need to play quick, attacking football. The early goal would really lift the crowd - and with a bit of luck, you never know….

Head says: 0-2 Newcastle
Heart says: 2-1 Palace

Howe took over last season with Newcastle second from bottom after 11 games and they ended the season in 11th place.
This season of course they are riding high in the PL and have conceded fewer PL goals than any other club.
Their Net Spend covering this season and last season has been around £240 Mill.

Edited by Willo (21 Jan 2023 11.46am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Jan 23 11.44am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I think they win. I don't think we are good enough to put in back to back performances and Newcastle is a bit of a bogey club.

I hope I am wrong 0-3

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Jan 23 11.45am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Strikers need to be given a run of starts and that basically hasn't happened this season for either Edouard and particularly Mateta.

Mateta has had just FOUR starts this season - early on scoring his solitary goal against Villa. Two of those starts were in the League Cup

Edouard has had 11 starts with 2 of those in the cup games. He has scored 5 goals and has 2 assists.

Edouard did reasonably well in his run before the world cup scoring 3 in 6 league starts.

Both were carrying injuries and/or were sick post World cup with Ayew playing instead.

Neither Edouard nor Mateta are impact subs and their sub appearances have been more about fresh legs than anything else.

I'd just like to see PV give one of them a proper run in the side between now and the end of the season before we dismiss them as useless.

 

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View AshfordEagle94's Profile AshfordEagle94 Flag Canterbury 21 Jan 23 11.58am Send a Private Message to AshfordEagle94 Add AshfordEagle94 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Strikers need to be given a run of starts and that basically hasn't happened this season for either Edouard and particularly Mateta.

Mateta has had just FOUR starts this season - early on scoring his solitary goal against Villa. Two of those starts were in the League Cup

Edouard has had 11 starts with 2 of those in the cup games. He has scored 5 goals and has 2 assists.

Edouard did reasonably well in his run before the world cup scoring 3 in 6 league starts.

Both were carrying injuries and/or were sick post World cup with Ayew playing instead.

Neither Edouard nor Mateta are impact subs and their sub appearances have been more about fresh legs than anything else.

I'd just like to see PV give one of them a proper run in the side between now and the end of the season before we dismiss them as useless.

I agree. I don't think either of them are 'useless'. I think that both need an opportunity in the first team for an extended period of time. However, I also think we need to get the ball into them quicker and earlier than we do both through the middle and from out wide. I'm not sure we'll have a 'decent' striker until we start giving them opportunities to score where they aren't surrounded by 4/5 defenders given time to prepare

 

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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 21 Jan 23 12.49pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have perused the stats of Will Hughes going back 10 seasons and whilst he is no stranger to a yellow card there is no evidence of any red card.

Reassuring to know that Willo

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 21 Jan 23 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by AshfordEagle94

The trouble is I can't quite tell how much is them being poor and how much is the way we play. we don't really put crosses in, and when we do they're late, and we don't play through balls. All of Zaha, Olise and Ayew tend to try and do too much and not pass quickly enough. I wonder if any striker could do well under those circumstances. I think we need to be quicker and not try to walk it in as often

Wilf record is pathetic for a player of his ability, an assist every 6.1 games, awful

 


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