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View Gribbo's Profile Gribbo Flag Bromley 22 Jan 23 11.03am Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

Chris Richards interview covers off Pat and Oisin's tactics. I think they have opened the drawer in the office and found Roy's matchday notes. Only variation seems to be to start with your worst playing options, and sub on the better ones in the 67th minute.

Can't play Schlupp, Eze and Ayew at the same time - not enough going forward, not enough coming back.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 22 Jan 23 12.44pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

We don't have a midfield capable of controlling the ball for any length of time, hence the dominance of the opposition in that area of the field. It is Roy all over again, except this time the out ball to Zaha doesn't work, because he's past it, Eze wanders round avoiding the action, and Schlupp is misplaced and misused. Ayew at least makes a nuisance of himself. Incidentally Zaha plays one game with a bandaged knee, the next he pulls up with a dodgy hamstring. He doesn't appear to have the burst of pace he once had. If he's injured why is he playing? Does he pick the team? Sometimes I have my doubts.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 23 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

We don't have a midfield capable of controlling the ball for any length of time, hence the dominance of the opposition in that area of the field. It is Roy all over again, except this time the out ball to Zaha doesn't work, because he's past it, Eze wanders round avoiding the action, and Schlupp is misplaced and misused. Ayew at least makes a nuisance of himself. Incedentally Zaha plays one game with a bandaged knee, the next he pulls up with a dodgy hamstring. He doesn't appear to have the burst of pace he once had. If he's injured why is he playing? Does he pick the team? Sometimes I have my doubts.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (22 Jan 2023 12.48pm)

Some excellent observations. I agree with the general thrust of the sentiments.

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 22 Jan 23 2.50pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Ok. We have come off the back of 0-3 and 0-4 home defeats. We were then presented with a nightmare run of fixtures. What else was he supposed to do. We have ground out 2 very valuable points against top teams. We probably deserved a point from the Chelsea game as well. Nothing wrong with stabilising the ship.
Or would you rather we went hung ho to the championship.

 

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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 22 Jan 23 3.28pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Ok. We have come off the back of 0-3 and 0-4 home defeats. We were then presented with a nightmare run of fixtures. What else was he supposed to do. We have ground out 2 very valuable points against top teams. We probably deserved a point from the Chelsea game as well. Nothing wrong with stabilising the ship.
Or would you rather we went hung ho to the championship.

Iím not PVís biggest fan (although I hope he does well) but I totally agree with you. I always judge a manager on whether they can make their team tough to beat when things are going wrong. Always sort out the defence first and then hopefully the attack will have the confidence to go win the game. Or in Eduardís case, maybe he can move off the spot, break into a jog or find a teammate with a simple pass!

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 22 Jan 23 4.27pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Lets see how things pan out in April when our games are more realistic.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 22 Jan 23 5.17pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Christ! There's none more pessimistic than me, however I'm delighted with 2 points gained against the 2 Uniteds. If only we'd been a bit resilient against Fulham and Spurs!

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 22 Jan 23 7.27pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

We have failed to score in nearly half of our games this season.
We sometimes fail to have a shot on target and more often than not only create a few chances per game.
A solid defence then is essential or weíre destined to be in a relegation struggle with such a blunt attack.
Yesterday we tried Edouard up front with Eze playing tucked in behind him.
Neither are adept at pressing or are physical players and in any event they were thirty yards away from each other in attempting to press, and Newcastle just played around them and started their moves.
In fairness neither are Gallagher, so it seems pointless to ask them to try to replicate his hustling style which was so successful at the beginning of last season.
Furthermore, Edouard and Eze seem to be lacking confidence and Edouardís touch , which can be good, seems to have deserted him.

I donít know what the answer is from an attacking standpoint.
Ayew contributes little in the way of goals and assists but arguably warrants selection through his bloody minded approach which contributes to the team.
Zaha looks out of form and in any event may well now be injured.
Mateta does not appear to the answer other than on a bit part basis.
Olise has talent but does not impose himself on games.
It would be good if he could take a leaf out of Sakaís book who always threatens playing in a similar position for Arsenal.
I canít see us as prolific scorers with the current squad so defend and try and get lucky may be our best strategy.

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 22 Jan 23 7.38pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

We have had an xG above 1.6 only once this season: and that was back in August against Villa. Last year we managed it in more than a third of our games

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 26 Jan 23 9.10am Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Royball 2...........back to the old days I am afraid!

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Jan 23 9.20am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Royball 2...........back to the old days I am afraid!

I have had this view expressed by some supporters.
We are not the 'Press' and team of energy (As demonstrated by our running stats) and we are not a 'Low block' counter-attacking team as under Mr Hodgson, to my mind we are somewhere in between.
Suffice to say the positivity of last season has somewhat dissipated.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Jan 23 10.41am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have had this view expressed by some supporters.
We are not the 'Press' and team of energy (As demonstrated by our running stats) and we are not a 'Low block' counter-attacking team as under Mr Hodgson, to my mind we are somewhere in between.
Suffice to say the positivity of last season has somewhat dissipated.

Currently, we are a team that has a solid central defence and some 'flair' players in attack. We have a goalkeeper who cannot play with his feet or dominate aerially though a very good shot-stopper, are seemingly exploring and experimenting with our midfield as an obvious set up is unavailable and lack a 'goal-scoring' forward.

Without resourcing our midfield and wing backs we lack the capability to dominate a game through possession and therefore build up towards something constituting a well architected attack. Without the obvious starting striker we are also reliant upon less obvious routes to put the ball in the net. Hence the lack of goals through open play of late.

I don't think it's quite 'Royball' although it plays out similarly. We are hoping for the defence to hold out and attacking players to do something with very little. For me it is a lob-sided, uneven team with a few holes in it. Were we to miraculously plug the gaps that exist we may see something more similar to last season. As it stands, we are and will not this month.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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