Vieira has always promoted the idea of players being braver with the ball, but when you're on a bad run that becomes harder to take on board, and even harder when you're Mateta or Schlupp and are actually not very good with the ball. I think confidence is a massive issue and a new manager might give the squad a short-term lift, but I think it would be a sticking plaster and the fact is that right now we're pretty much in the same position we've been for the last few years.

The reality is that however we might be playing, based on the investment in the squad, we are punching above our weight every season we finish outside the bottom four or five. Last season shows how good we can be with a cash injection, but we seemingly can't be like West Ham, Wolves or Villa and do that every season. Everton and Leicester are examples of what happens when you stop spending big money. Brighton and Brentford both kept faith in their managers and had a clear focus of where they want to get to. I believe that we have a direction and that the club is not just doing like it used to do and bringing in firefighters, but whether that plan comes off remains to be seen. Sacking a manager for being 12th when we have been one of the lowest spenders in the league would make us look a bit mental and it is just not going to happen.

Palace since PV took over compared to Brighton over the same period:
Palace, in 14 players,cost 132m, out 16 players, income 5.4m
Brighton, in 14 players, cost 131m, out 23 players, income 216m
it just shows how badly or club is run, so know whinging of depleted squad, just badly spent, and badly run by Parish

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

What a manager says to the media and what he says to his players can be totally different things.

Take Saturday as an example. PV looked for the positives in a performance which we all know and could see wasn't anything to write home about.

In any walk of life, when things aren't going well the person at the top has to keep a clear head and stay calm. That applies to Steve Parish as well of course.

Ultimately my view on PV will be more fully formed at the end of the season.

Old, Ungifted and White

Yes, Brighton are better run, better funded than Palace.

What you are seeing on the playing field is a reflection of that.

Which is why I defend PV against your constant barrage of blame.

Old, Ungifted and White

Of course it's a results business. If we lose our next 3 games then I can see some serious questions being asked.

Parish sacked Pardew when it became clear that he had lost confidence in him. He may well do the same with Vieira. But not at this moment which is what some on here are advocating

Old, Ungifted and White

Firstly the board don't make a habit of publicizing their unhappiness with the manager and secondly there were rumours doing the rounds in January that the reason that very little money was spent was because the board were not convinced that Vieira was "the one"

Personally I don't believe the rumour as it's my belief that the reason for the lack of spending is more likely to do with Parish's empty wallet