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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Feb 23 10.11am
Originally posted by YT We have a criminal law system where everyone is presumed to be innocent unless and until proven guilty. That is a fundamental principle regardless of the crime that has been alleged and it's a valuable protection for the individual against the state. I would probably be classed as an authoritarian, however even I feel uncomfortable when people start asking: "how can we can get more convictions for this, that or the other crime?" - sex crimes in this example. The only way to get a conviction is to present evidence of a crime that is sufficient to convince a jury "beyond reasonable doubt" that the person committed it. Period. Frustrating though this must be for victims. Fair point and that is why I started this thread. Whenever this topic comes up politicians always start out saying that men / boys need to be educated about this unacceptable behaviour. I don't disagree they should but there will always be people who break the law so it's a politicians answer which doesn't really solve the problem. We shouldn't speed but we do. Better police investigating definitely, I think the way they handles these cases has got better but no doubt people who understand this in detail would say more could be done. So we come back again to the central point how can these victims get justice whilst ensuring the defendant gets a fair trial. One more point
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Beckenham 10 Feb 23 10.11am

Originally posted by YT

We have a criminal law system where everyone is presumed to be innocent unless and until proven guilty. That is a fundamental principle regardless of the crime that has been alleged and it's a valuable protection for the individual against the state.

I would probably be classed as an authoritarian, however even I feel uncomfortable when people start asking: "how can we can get more convictions for this, that or the other crime?" - sex crimes in this example. The only way to get a conviction is to present evidence of a crime that is sufficient to convince a jury "beyond reasonable doubt" that the person committed it. Period. Frustrating though this must be for victims.

Fair point and that is why I started this thread.

Whenever this topic comes up politicians always start out saying that men / boys need to be educated about this unacceptable behaviour. I don't disagree they should but there will always be people who break the law so it's a politicians answer which doesn't really solve the problem. We shouldn't speed but we do.

Better police investigating definitely, I think the way they handles these cases has got better but no doubt people who understand this in detail would say more could be done.

So we come back again to the central point how can these victims get justice whilst ensuring the defendant gets a fair trial.

One more point

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