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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 11 Mar 23 8.27pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


The only positive is that we don't have to hear any analysis of it on Match of the Day.

Amen to that

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 11 Mar 23 8.44pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Not sure where the ‘No shots on goal’ is coming from?

Eze had a shot on target on 85 minutes? It was clearly a shot AND was on target, I’m not sure what criteria Sky are using to create their stats?!

Even by their own admission we had a Total of Four (4) shots but Sky then list both ‘Shots On Target’ & ‘Shots Off Target’ as Zero…go figure?!


Edited by Phil’s Barber (11 Mar 2023 8.48pm)

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 11 Mar 23 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Not sure where the ‘No shots on goal’ is coming from?

Eze had a shot on target on 85 minutes? It was clearly a shot AND was on target, I’m not sure what criteria Sky are using to create their stats?!

Even by their own admission we had a Total of Four (4) shots but Sky then list both ‘Shots On Target’ & ‘Shots Off Target’ as Zero…go figure?!


Edited by Phil’s Barber (11 Mar 2023 8.48pm)

I don’t really give a flying f what happened, we still didn’t score…. Again.

 

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View i_8_clowns's Profile i_8_clowns Flag Dorset 11 Mar 23 9.24pm Send a Private Message to i_8_clowns Add i_8_clowns as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Not sure where the ‘No shots on goal’ is coming from?

Eze had a shot on target on 85 minutes? It was clearly a shot AND was on target, I’m not sure what criteria Sky are using to create their stats?!

Even by their own admission we had a Total of Four (4) shots but Sky then list both ‘Shots On Target’ & ‘Shots Off Target’ as Zero…go figure?!


Edited by Phil’s Barber (11 Mar 2023 8.48pm)

A shot on target is one that the keeper has to save. His shot was blocked so wasn’t on target…

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 11 Mar 23 9.45pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Many aspects of the peeformance were decent today.
We were disciplined and largely contained them.
The problem is in holding out for 0-0 the gameplan comes unstuck when the opposition scores and you have little prospect of scoring yourselves.
Our defensive displays are reasonably good but our attacking efforts practically non existent.
Unless we fix this we are in for a real struggle.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Mar 23 11.58pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by i_8_clowns

A shot on target is one that the keeper has to save. His shot was blocked so wasn’t on target…

Opta defines a shot on target as any goal attempt that:

Goes into the net regardless of intent - For Goals only.
Is a clear attempt to score that would have gone into the net but for being saved by the goalkeeper or is stopped by a player who is the last-man with the goalkeeper having no chance of preventing the goal (last line block).

Shots blocked by another player, who is not the last-man, are not counted as shots on target. Shots directly hitting the frame of the goal are not counted as shots on target, unless the ball goes in and is awarded as a goal.

 

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View Wilbraham413's Profile Wilbraham413 Flag 12 Mar 23 12.42am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Opta defines a shot on target as any goal attempt that:

Goes into the net regardless of intent - For Goals only.
Is a clear attempt to score that would have gone into the net but for being saved by the goalkeeper or is stopped by a player who is the last-man with the goalkeeper having no chance of preventing the goal (last line block).

Shots blocked by another player, who is not the last-man, are not counted as shots on target. Shots directly hitting the frame of the goal are not counted as shots on target, unless the ball goes in and is awarded as a goal.

Willo, you are too calm for my comfort; I need one of your patented apoplectic yet erudite eviscerations of today's performance.

 


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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 12 Mar 23 1.20am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

It was Man City. Their 1st eleven cost them more than our entire squad.

So did their 2nd eleven....

 


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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 12 Mar 23 6.33am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Their bench cost more than our squad - it even included Kevin De Bruyne -

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

It was Man City. Their 1st eleven cost them more than our entire squad.

So did their 2nd eleven....

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 12 Mar 23 6.42am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I went into the game yesterday fearing the worst - Man City hungry for points to close the gap on Arsenal, we had Decoure out on suspension, Luke was named in the starting 11 -

City, masters of a lot of good football, but equally masters of the dark arts, fouling & breaking up our attempts at counter with nudges, tripping & ganging up on the breaking player with impunity, throwing themselves on the floor at every opportunity & honestly if I was our doctor I would have sent out a box of tissues for the city players that hit the deck holding their face looking as though they were in floods of tears when in truth they tripped over their bootlaces -

I know we lost, another city player dropping to his knees (I will watch it on the replay later, so maybe I am being harsh on him)

Honestly I know we are struggling, we are shot & goal shy & haven't bloomed to fulfil our potential throughout the season & in some areas we have gone backwards , but I came away from the ground yesterday proud of the lads & the effort they put in to nullify this city threat, there were some big hearts out there yesterday - maybe I am alone in this but that's how it was for me -


 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 12 Mar 23 6.51am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Many aspects of the peeformance were decent today.
We were disciplined and largely contained them.
The problem is in holding out for 0-0 the gameplan comes unstuck when the opposition scores and you have little prospect of scoring yourselves.
Our defensive displays are reasonably good but our attacking efforts practically non existent.
Unless we fix this we are in for a real struggle.

This sums it up. My first game at Selhurst P since 2019 Boxing Day.

Highlight was Tasty Jerk pork.

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 12 Mar 23 7.11am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I agree with these observations.
City were very cynical in their play and brought down our players whenever beaten even in not particularly dangerous areas.
Unlike other City teams in recent years they were not pleasing on the eye with little in the way of intricacy of approach.
More importantly on Palace , I agree there was much to commend in our performance but nothing from an attacking perspective.
I don’t know what the solution is.
Ahamada and Eze looked bright when they came on, but if we had started them we could have been 3 down at half time through being too open.
On the other hand Schlupp and Ayew both did good jobs for the team defensively, but we’re never going to trouble City offensively.
I watched Bournemouth beat Liverpool earlier before going to Palace.
They looked solid , but also carried a real threat with lots of pace and purpose and could easily have scored a few goals.
This is what we lack, and I think it’s a combination of poor coaching, tactical approach and lack of genuine pace in our attacking players.
I’m not sure how we fix this unless we either shake up the team or change the manager.
We’re not quite there in achieving results (we haven’t won at home since October) so something has to change.

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

I went into the game yesterday fearing the worst - Man City hungry for points to close the gap on Arsenal, we had Decoure out on suspension, Luke was named in the starting 11 -

City, masters of a lot of good football, but equally masters of the dark arts, fouling & breaking up our attempts at counter with nudges, tripping & ganging up on the breaking player with impunity, throwing themselves on the floor at every opportunity & honestly if I was our doctor I would have sent out a box of tissues for the city players that hit the deck holding their face looking as though they were in floods of tears when in truth they tripped over their bootlaces -

I know we lost, another city player dropping to his knees (I will watch it on the replay later, so maybe I am being harsh on him)

Honestly I know we are struggling, we are shot & goal shy & haven't bloomed to fulfil our potential throughout the season & in some areas we have gone backwards , but I came away from the ground yesterday proud of the lads & the effort they put in to nullify this city threat, there were some big hearts out there yesterday - maybe I am alone in this but that's how it was for me -


 

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