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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Aug 23 1.01pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

the Bench Boys.....not the Beach Boys.


anyway, good commentary from everybody above. And of course any top 6 club has an amazing Bench.

now, help me to understand the Bench of the clubs in the bottom half of the table. Surely they face the same challenges as us ? talent, money, limited options etc....

Fresh legs ? Surely even Messi needs to come off the pitch after 75 minutes ?

Dodgy Legs ? surely Benteke & Luka didnt deserve to be in the starting line-up ?

tactics ? it was often said that Ole Gunnar Solskear was a better striker when he got to watch defenders for an hour, to figure them out.

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the Bench Boys.....not the Beach Boys.


anyway, good commentary from everybody above. And of course any top 6 club has an amazing Bench.

now, help me to understand the Bench of the clubs in the bottom half of the table. Surely they face the same challenges as us ? talent, money, limited options etc....

Fresh legs ? Surely even Messi needs to come off the pitch after 75 minutes ?

Dodgy Legs ? surely Benteke & Luka didnt deserve to be in the starting line-up ?

tactics ? it was often said that Ole Gunnar Solskear was a better striker when he got to watch defenders for an hour, to figure them out.

..that's dyslexia for you,still a bit of sunshine and stupid hawaiian shirts do no harm.

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 28 Aug 23 3.51pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the Bench Boys.....not the Beach Boys.


anyway, good commentary from everybody above. And of course any top 6 club has an amazing Bench.

now, help me to understand the Bench of the clubs in the bottom half of the table. Surely they face the same challenges as us ? talent, money, limited options etc....

Fresh legs ? Surely even Messi needs to come off the pitch after 75 minutes ?

Dodgy Legs ? surely Benteke & Luka didnt deserve to be in the starting line-up ?

tactics ? it was often said that Ole Gunnar Solskear was a better striker when he got to watch defenders for an hour, to figure them out.

The difference in the teams at the bottom is that their benches are of the same standard as the team . Its why they are at the bottom . Teams like ours with better first elevens and weak squads are mid table , those with decent first elevens and good benches are top 10 , and so on until you end up at Manchester City whos 3rd best eleven would finnish in the top half never mind their 2nd who would finnish ,er, 2nd .

 


And we still need a striker

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Aug 23 4.33pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

The difference in the teams at the bottom is that their benches are of the same standard as the team . Its why they are at the bottom . Teams like ours with better first elevens and weak squads are mid table , those with decent first elevens and good benches are top 10 , and so on until you end up at Manchester City whos 3rd best eleven would finnish in the top half never mind their 2nd who would finnish ,er, 2nd .

so which is more frustrating for a player ...

- warming the Bench and waiting for Erling Haaland to mess up
or
- warming the bench and waiting to replace Luka Milivojivic ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (28 Aug 2023 7.14pm)

 


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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 28 Aug 23 5.33pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

You make subs for one of two reasons - replace quality or improve physicality.

Let's play down the fresh legs piece a bit - they play 90 mins once a week. Many players in the league will be playing 90 mins twice a week plus European travel. They're incredibly fit - it isn't the 80s where players are walking around in the closing stages.

The bench is crap in terms of quality, as it was the last time Roy was here. Vieira had a comparatively blissful time in terms of depth. There's no-one on the bench currently who isn't a substantial downgrade on those on the pitch.

Compared to the end of last season, we've effectively swapped Lerma for Luka, and then lost McArthur, Butland, Zaha, Olise, Hughes from consideration. The bench is gone. We haven't replaced it, and a couple of injuries is all it takes to totally expose it.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 03 Sep 23 4.19pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

does anybody else feel that Roy's reluctance to bring on Subs before the 89th minute is note-worthy ? and that tired legs must surely hurt our performances ? especially for any older players.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Aug 2023 7.02pm)

Hughes

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 03 Dec 23 4.03pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

bump.....bringing on players after 85 minutes.

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

bump.....bringing on players after 85 minutes.

To help earn a valuable away point at West Ham when fears around relegation are real and some want you sacked.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 06 Dec 23 4.19pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

We are facing 3 games in 6 days,
West Ham last Sunday
Bournemouth tonight
Liverpool early Saturday.

Roy will have to use the subs with that schedule.

Hughes, Schlupp and Edouard rarely complete 90 mins when there is one game a week let alone three games.
I do suspect well see Riedewald , Richards, Mateta and possibly Clyne at some point in the next two games.
Im less convinced that well see Ahamada and Franca other than for brief cameos.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 16 Dec 23 6.10pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Franca...wow

 


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Didn't watch but comments please on Franca brief appearance ?TIA

 

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Originally posted by AERO

Didn't watch but comments please on Franca brief appearance ?TIA

He played well. Quick and some good vision and passing. Thr lad looks like he could be another brilliant signing if given the minutes.

 

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