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View jcreedy's Profile jcreedy Flag 06 Sep 23 3.29pm Send a Private Message to jcreedy Add jcreedy as a friend

Horizon rejoin.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Sep 23 5.31pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It just wasnít. The choice was made when Parliament triggered Article 50. They could have refused to do so as no referendum is binding in the UK. They didnít refuse even if they wanted to, because of the political consequences.

Isnít that the last 20 years of politicians, starting with bliar

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Sep 23 7.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Isnít that the last 20 years of politicians, starting with bliar

What has Blair got to do with the way Brexit was enabled?

If Blair had still been PM there it would not have happened. There is no way he would have agreed to a referendum. He would not have risked throwing the countryís future under the bus in the way Cameron did. Indeed seeing UKIP decimate the Tory Party would have been politically advantageous as well.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Sep 23 7.17pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What has Blair got to do with the way Brexit was enabled?

If Blair had still been PM there it would not have happened. There is no way he would have agreed to a referendum. He would not have risked throwing the countryís future under the bus in the way Cameron did. Indeed seeing UKIP decimate the Tory Party would have been politically advantageous as well.

Isn't Blair just being used as a marker for the way trust in politicians has declined?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Sep 23 7.51pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Isn't Blair just being used as a marker for the way trust in politicians has declined?

Thankyou sir

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Sep 23 7.53pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What has Blair got to do with the way Brexit was enabled?

If Blair had still been PM there it would not have happened. There is no way he would have agreed to a referendum. He would not have risked throwing the countryís future under the bus in the way Cameron did. Indeed seeing UKIP decimate the Tory Party would have been politically advantageous as well.

Decimated plenty though, for his and his mrs bank accounts.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 07 Sep 23 8.50am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Decimated plenty though, for his and his mrs bank accounts.

Let's take the advice of someone who went into an illegal war, everyone knows the story.

He and his lap dog Campbell are despicable

Relevance to topic is his meddling post Brexit

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View newickeagle's Profile newickeagle Flag Newick, E Sussex 07 Sep 23 9.10am Send a Private Message to newickeagle Add newickeagle as a friend

Blair, his illegal war, let us not forget he had the full throated support of the Tory party who marched through the lobbies with him. It was already well out there that people suspected the intelligence was, to say the least, iffy.

He's just as his entitled to his views on Brexit, I happen to agree, as those who thought it was a good idea. Or, are they meddling too?

Horizon associate membership is a step in the right direction, probably not as good as that which we had before, but I will take it! It is the first step to associate membership, however they dress it up, of the EU.

It's happened, move on, make the best of it, does not mean if you think it was a bad idea you have to keep quiet.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 07 Sep 23 9.26am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by newickeagle

Blair, his illegal war, let us not forget he had the full throated support of the Tory party who marched through the lobbies with him. It was already well out there that people suspected the intelligence was, to say the least, iffy.

He's just as his entitled to his views on Brexit, I happen to agree, as those who thought it was a good idea. Or, are they meddling too?

Horizon associate membership is a step in the right direction, probably not as good as that which we had before, but I will take it! It is the first step to associate membership, however they dress it up, of the EU.

It's happened, move on, make the best of it, does not mean if you think it was a bad idea you have to keep quiet.

I agree the lemmings who voted to support Blair from all sides have culpability

Problem was they were presented with false information which prima facie supported the WMD arguement

Edited by HKOwen (07 Sep 2023 9.28am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 07 Sep 23 10.05am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It just wasnít. The choice was made when Parliament triggered Article 50. They could have refused to do so as no referendum is binding in the UK. They didnít refuse even if they wanted to, because of the political consequences.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 23 4.28pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Isn't Blair just being used as a marker for the way trust in politicians has declined?

By some maybe but not by me.

You can trawl back and find occasions when trust evaporated after particular events. Blair was nothing unusual. In truth he was probably the first one to suffer character assassination by social media. Thatís whatís different.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 07 Sep 23 5.29pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

By some maybe but not by me.

You can trawl back and find occasions when trust evaporated after particular events. Blair was nothing unusual. In truth he was probably the first one to suffer character assassination by social media. Thatís whatís different.

Since the days of our first prime minister, Robert Walpole, they have suffered from character assassination from the contemporary social media of the time.

"Satire on George II and Robert Walpole. The king is represented as a satyr, seen from the rear, standing on an altar kicking his left leg and breaking wind; Queen Caroline, as a priestess wearing a bell on her wrist, approaches from the right to administer an enema of "Aurum potabile" (a flavoured brandy); Bishop Hoadly stands behind her followed by men carrying on their heads vessels of gold, several of which have been deposited at the foot of the altar, square pieces of gold having spilled from one. On the left; Robert Walpole dressed as the Chief Magician, dressed in a coat embroidered with dragons and the words "Auri Sacra fames" and carrying a rod, looks up at the satyr; behind him is a procession of courtiers with the insignia of the golden rump embroidered on their shoulders; in the foreground Walpole's brother Horatio Walpole holds out a pair of scales, an allusion to his concern to preserve the balance of power in Europe which earned him the nickname, the "Balance Master". A curtain hanging across the top is embroidered with golden rumps. 1737"
[British Museum website]

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