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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Oct 23 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

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Over the years there have been many cases of bad behaviour by celebs or just members of the public. I often see comments such as this was outside of work nothing to do with their employer or it's only a small amount of money or big deal he lied on his CV so what.

I have previously posted that you would not get away with it at my old firm which in this case is Citi.

The guy was rightly sacked in my opinion not because it was £86 but because he lied and tried to fiddle his expenses, he had a high profile job in a sensitive department.

Unlike many other organisations e.g. The Police, Education Local Government etc who seem too ready to forgive the corporate world is far more ready to do the right thing.

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Citi is always involved in financial scandals in case anyone wants to use that as a whataboutory if that is your argument please start a new thread.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 16 Oct 23 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I thought I would post this

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Over the years there have been many cases of bad behaviour by celebs or just members of the public. I often see comments such as this was outside of work nothing to do with their employer or it's only a small amount of money or big deal he lied on his CV so what.

I have previously posted that you would not get away with it at my old firm which in this case is Citi.

The guy was rightly sacked in my opinion not because it was £86 but because he lied and tried to fiddle his expenses, he had a high profile job in a sensitive department.

Unlike many other organisations e.g. The Police, Education Local Government etc who seem too ready to forgive the corporate world is far more ready to do the right thing.

PS
Citi is always involved in financial scandals in case anyone wants to use that as a whataboutory if that is your argument please start a new thread.

I read that earlier Badger and my take from it was 'it's the principle of the matter, not the money'.

It might seem harsh to the fella but I do condone the action taken.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 16 Oct 23 1.37pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I thought I would post this

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Over the years there have been many cases of bad behaviour by celebs or just members of the public. I often see comments such as this was outside of work nothing to do with their employer or it's only a small amount of money or big deal he lied on his CV so what.

I have previously posted that you would not get away with it at my old firm which in this case is Citi.

The guy was rightly sacked in my opinion not because it was £86 but because he lied and tried to fiddle his expenses, he had a high profile job in a sensitive department.

Unlike many other organisations e.g. The Police, Education Local Government etc who seem too ready to forgive the corporate world is far more ready to do the right thing.

PS
Citi is always involved in financial scandals in case anyone wants to use that as a whataboutory if that is your argument please start a new thread.

This isn’t about a meal or expense claim. The guy was probably a dick who upset too many people and thought he was untouchable. Well clearly he was touchable and his goose got cooked

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Oct 23 2.04pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

This isn’t about a meal or expense claim. The guy was probably a dick who upset too many people and thought he was untouchable. Well clearly he was touchable and his goose got cooked

Quite possibly I don't know him.

I used to tell my staff if they had any doubt about claiming expenses talk to me or the department that handles them before you put your claim in. He obviously new better.

Apparently my common-sense approach isn't used in Parliament either where MPs have the attitude I was in doubt so thought I'd better claim it.

Citi is a good company to work for they pay well and look after their staff but they have always been hot on this stuff my old boss was sacked for fiddling his expenses stupid boy.

I would go away for a week abroad and when I did my expenses I was always about £20 light. I could either fiddle them to get the money I knew I was due but couldn't prove or wipe my mouth. I chose the later £20 for a week in New York seemed like a bargain to me.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Oct 23 2.07pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

This isn’t about a meal or expense claim. The guy was probably a dick who upset too many people and thought he was untouchable. Well clearly he was touchable and his goose got cooked

You likely have a good point. Work doesn't actively try and get rid of you unless they already dislike you - or are suspicious fir some reason. No one would get caught out like this if they were a company favourite. This was someone they were looking for an excuse to fire. Six weeks off for a gran dying seems a little long. There's more to this than meets the eye.
Probably quite a long and complicated story if you had all the details.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Oct 23 2.19pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

You likely have a good point. Work doesn't actively try and get rid of you unless they already dislike you - or are suspicious fir some reason. No one would get caught out like this if they were a company favourite. This was someone they were looking for an excuse to fire. Six weeks off for a gran dying seems a little long. There's more to this than meets the eye.
Probably quite a long and complicated story if you had all the details.

It wouldn't surprise me he was dead man walking however my old boss was highly regarded and they sacked him for the same reason.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Oct 23 4.47pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

It wouldn't surprise me he was dead man walking however my old boss was highly regarded and they sacked him for the same reason.

Fair enough. It would just seem that if someone was making you a lot of money, you wouldn't sack them over a tiny amount. But maybe you would.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 16 Oct 23 5.25pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i have always believed that if you make a ton of enemies, they will get you through any chink in your armour.

had that fella been more civil, it may have never come to this.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 16 Oct 23 7.02pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

It wouldn't surprise me he was dead man walking however my old boss was highly regarded and they sacked him for the same reason.

Your old boss was highly regarded by the ‘minions’. The upper echelons clearly didn’t think so. Behind closed doors much goes on we don’t know about.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Oct 23 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Your old boss was highly regarded by the ‘minions’. The upper echelons clearly didn’t think so. Behind closed doors much goes on we don’t know about.

When something is known it cannot be unknown. If behaviour is uncovered that is a clear breach of policy it will have to be investigated or the person in the know puts themselves in jeopardy

This guy was an Analyst in financial crime. Probably his boss also worked in financial crime.

Edited by Mapletree (16 Oct 2023 10.36pm)

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Oct 23 5.37am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

It's the lie and dishonesty the bank won't tolerate.

Whether a small lunch or something bigger the principle is the same

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 18 Oct 23 6.08am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I remember many years ago I got my first break into a sales career because the guy in the position got fired for fiddling his expenses, he was claiming an allowance for off street parking at his house when in reality he was parked on the street like everyone else in that road, it only came to light when he left his briefcase on the back seat one evening & someone smashed his rear window to steal it, the briefcase had a presentation for a major key account in it (printed version, long before internet) so inevitably soon afterwards, when he couldn't make the presentation, questions began being asked by the company as to why the car wasn't in the off street parking garage that he was claiming for.

One of those things that he probably thought he would claim for & no one will ever find out - the daft thing was that the off street parking allowance that the company allowed to claim was an absolute pittance so in the end he lost his good job with a very reputable company for claiming a few extra pennies a month.

 

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