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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Nov 23 12.13pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

I am happy to own the term far/dissident Right.

But what you saw yesterday, was NOT from my area of political discourse. Every single influential voice from my sphere was urging people to stay away. Proclaiming it for the very clear trap it was.


Imagine you are walking through a supermarket car-park. You witness a violent row between two people. Walk away. Don't get yourself stabbed for a fight you probably do not even need to understand.

such is the current situation.....Palestine, the Left, Israel, the Right....

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Nov 23 12.15pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Irisheagle87

It's pure stupidity. I'm from Derry/ Londonderry/ Doire. Whatever you want to call it. Grew up with a stupid divide in which I was part of. Took me the best part of twenty years to realise there's 2 different types of people in this so called world.

Yes - Prods and Fenians.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 12 Nov 23 12.19pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

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Found this interesting. France is holding a march against anti-Semitism which is being attended by the Right, but not the Left, (Far, of course, in each case).

It mentions in the article that this shift is happening across Europe.

Bit ironic that Britain is moving to the left since distancing ourselves from Europe, while Europe is shifting to the right.

The glue of multiculturalism looks like it's not as binding as we were encouraged to believe.

The move towards the Right in much of Europe is driven by different pressures to those here in the UK but all underpinned by the same utterly baffling hypocrisy of the Left continent-wide when it comes to Islam.

By ANY kind of measure, then the Left should be diametrically opposed to any kind of growth in Muslim populations in the West. Islam is a belief system that in almost any and every conceivable way at odds with every tenet of Left wing ideology. Far, far more socially Conservative than any extreme 'far Right' Western ideology.

And yet they champion them at the expense of the native population of Europe. Literal insanity that has no rational explanation.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Grumbles's Profile Grumbles 12 Nov 23 12.24pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by BrentisBack

Been here longer than most. Just haven’t posted for years as a member. But was on the very first original site.

Slug?

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 12 Nov 23 12.26pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Imagine you are walking through a supermarket car-park. You witness a violent row between two people. Walk away. Don't get yourself stabbed for a fight you probably do not even need to understand.

such is the current situation.....Palestine, the Left, Israel, the Right....


To some extent then yes, very much so. But given my own (potentially rabid) conspiracy theory about how ALL of this current shenanigans is linked to a wider plan to effectively see a mass transfer of the Palestinian people from the Middle East to the West, then it actually is our fight.

Just not the ludicrous and clearly stage-managed hysteria of yesterday although I suspect this to part of that plan as what it does is present a narrative that it is 'Far-Right' to oppose these marches and when, by default, we are presented with the fact that Europe is expected to absorb 2-3 million 'refugees', then to oppose similar will be portrayed as a sign of being some kind of proponent of full-on Neo-Nazism.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Nov 23 12.38pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Yes - Prods and Fenians.

Two tribes that are so similar that they need to ask each other , which flag, before deciding if the other fella is friend or foe.

Sectarian shyte in Belfast, Glasgow and lots of other places.

Catholics against Protestants and not a true christian to be witnessed on either side.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 12 Nov 23 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Two tribes that are so similar that they need to ask each other , which flag, before deciding if the other fella is friend or foe.

Sectarian shyte in Belfast, Glasgow and lots of other places.

Catholics against Protestants and not a true christian to be witnessed on either side.


One of the biggest ironies of the current state of politics is that there seems to be a lot of contact between Right-wing activists from the UK and the Republic now than ever before with shared appreciation/support of the real problem.

How the Left have managed to become a genuine shared enemy that now transcends (or at least helps negate) any kind of old historical animosities (albeit outside of the usual sordid s*** in the north which strikes me more about control of the drugs trade than any kind of theological debates) will be studied in years and decades to come.

In fact, the links and bonds being formed across Europe now are truly encouraging and the notion of us all sharing far in common than that which separates us is perhaps a rare glimpse of hope in the current darkness.


 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 12 Nov 23 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Pantomime season comes early...



FFS.

We are ALL being played with this s***.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Nov 23 3.06pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by BrentisBack

Go through the posts on here over the past few years. I don’t need to do your homework for you. People have made their point loud and clear.
Getting back to the point at hand. No one has got the cojones to come on here and discuss the goings on of today. It’s a common occurrence. Unless it furthers their agenda, they cop a total silence. And that is the problem with the way things go today. A total silo’d society. Blinkers on unless something sets the alarm off. Pathetic really.

Edited by BrentisBack (11 Nov 2023 9.08pm)

Apologies I was under the impression you were a new member or have you just decided to join after reading the forum for years & wanted to join in the cut & thrust of debate or are you in fact either A/ Someone who is banned or B/ A flouncer

 


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View inflikted's Profile inflikted Flag 12 Nov 23 3.15pm Send a Private Message to inflikted Add inflikted as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

well , lets have a look....

Far Right

- homophobic
- antiSemitic
- white supremacist
- worshipping the Third Reich & other monsters

- incitement to violence & murder
- holocaust denial

etc etc........

Do please furnish us with a few quotes of such opinions from HOL ?

Speaking as someone with a master's degree in politics who studied radical political theory, I can tell you that is extremely oversimplified and limited view of it. Far Right politics involves highly performative nationalism, ostracising those deemed as "other" in a "them vs us" mentality, extreme social conservatism, desire for homogeny and hostility towards freedom of speech and protest if it opposes your views.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Nov 23 3.24pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Apologies I was under the impression you were a new member or have you just decided to join after reading the forum for years & wanted to join in the cut & thrust of debate or are you in fact either A/ Someone who is banned or B/ A flouncer

He's a BBS person. I'd put money on it.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Nov 23 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by inflikted

Speaking as someone with a master's degree in politics who studied radical political theory, I can tell you that is extremely oversimplified and limited view of it. Far Right politics involves highly performative nationalism, ostracising those deemed as "other" in a "them vs us" mentality, extreme social conservatism, desire for homogeny and hostility towards freedom of speech and protest if it opposes your views.

You just described Islam, Judaism and Leftism.

 

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