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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 20 Jan 24 11.09pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Just remember what happened to Charlton when there fans wanted Curbishley out and where Charlton are now. Not saying I want Hodgson to stay but perhaps until we get a better squad / first 11 then we have at the moment, that he is the only guy to keep us up. Only this summer coming can we get players in that will help keep us up next season and hopefully some of our present younger players may also be pushing for first team starts. We better have a good enough manager coming in if Hodgson does go now as our present 11 isnít good enough. Then again Everton and Forrest may also get docked points which will help? Tough times ahead and I donít know if a replacement manager or Hodgson can keep us up?

 

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View DenTyler's Profile DenTyler Flag Sidcup 20 Jan 24 11.23pm Send a Private Message to DenTyler Add DenTyler as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Just remember what happened to Charlton when there fans wanted Curbishley out and where Charlton are now. Not saying I want Hodgson to stay but perhaps until we get a better squad / first 11 then we have at the moment, that he is the only guy to keep us up. Only this summer coming can we get players in that will help keep us up next season and hopefully some of our present younger players may also be pushing for first team starts. We better have a good enough manager coming in if Hodgson does go now as our present 11 isnít good enough. Then again Everton and Forrest may also get docked points which will help? Tough times ahead and I donít know if a replacement manager or Hodgson can keep us up?

Noted on your point but itís a catch 22. With the current manager, would a -layer want to come to us (Iím convinced thatís part of the reason Wilf left). And Roy will never play the kids.

Iíve had all day to think about this. We have seen the best decade the club has known. But that is our history. Do we really want to watch this shambles any longer. What is the end game? What is the point? I look forward to match days or rather I did. Win, lose or draw, it was a break from work and the day to day hustle and bustle of life but now I seem to have hump more and more and not enjoying it one bit.

 

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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 20 Jan 24 11.34pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by DenTyler

Noted on your point but itís a catch 22. With the current manager, would a -layer want to come to us (Iím convinced thatís part of the reason Wilf left). And Roy will never play the kids.

Iíve had all day to think about this. We have seen the best decade the club has known. But that is our history. Do we really want to watch this shambles any longer. What is the end game? What is the point? I look forward to match days or rather I did. Win, lose or draw, it was a break from work and the day to day hustle and bustle of life but now I seem to have hump more and more and not enjoying it one bit.

Thatís why Iím on the fence about this. Damned if we do, damned if we donít :-(

 

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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 21 Jan 24 12.11am Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

I just have to rant and get this off my mind! ApologiesÖ.

From a personal perspective, 50 years of being a Palace fan has taught me there will always be huge challenges when you support the red and blue army!
The current team is not balanced, lacks an influential leader and missing that all important passion when playing for the club. We are relying on one or two players every week to score goals. We are too reliant on Eze and Olise. Itís the ĎOMG..Zaha is injured we are doomedí scenario over again

Tactically, our heading at set pieces is poor, our throw ons are a joke, and the way we are set up at corners just invites goals!

Our recruitment policy is awful. We spent all our summer budget on a GK and teenager with potential. That £50m could have bought 5 good championship players that would have added more depth to the squad.

Parish needs to wake up to the reality that unless he acts and changes the mentality of the clubÖthen our new stand will never be built and we will be playing in the lower tiers of football for the foreseeable future

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 21 Jan 24 12.12am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Crikey, Textor must be wondering what he has got involved in. I bet he had a nice easy life before he got into football.

I bet he's already made a nice profit on what he originally invested in Palace ... and he expects to make even more?

I'm sure they'll all make the effort to turn out for the Emirates because it's the place to be seen at. I was fortunate enough to be beered and pied there once ... the middle tier of the entire stadium seems to be exclusively for corporate entertaining.

Edited by Henry of Peckham (21 Jan 2024 12.14am)

 


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View andyeagles's Profile andyeagles Flag croydon 21 Jan 24 12.14am Send a Private Message to andyeagles Add andyeagles as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Just remember what happened to Charlton when there fans wanted Curbishley out and where Charlton are now. Not saying I want Hodgson to stay but perhaps until we get a better squad / first 11 then we have at the moment, that he is the only guy to keep us up. Only this summer coming can we get players in that will help keep us up next season and hopefully some of our present younger players may also be pushing for first team starts. We better have a good enough manager coming in if Hodgson does go now as our present 11 isnít good enough. Then again Everton and Forrest may also get docked points which will help? Tough times ahead and I donít know if a replacement manager or Hodgson can keep us up?

wrong charlton were challenging champions league places once upon a time. Spent 7 years in the Premier league


Palace on the other hand. 12 years in the Premier league and never once came close to a Europer conference spot. Never even made the teams who were look over their shoulders and get worried they are on their tails. Even Brentford in their 2nd season were European contenders. And missed out on the European football by 2 points! If we had a couple of seasons like that it wouldn't be so bad. I think being in the Prem well over a decade fans are right to have a grumble at the lack of ambition shown by the owners


Edited by andyeagles (21 Jan 2024 12.15am)

 

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View Oddball2021's Profile Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 21 Jan 24 3.41am Send a Private Message to Oddball2021 Add Oddball2021 as a friend

Some posters on here rightly assessing that the issue is not Roy. He is just an expendable scapegoat for a management agenda to stay in the PL at the least possible cost whilst convincing the fanbase the club has ambition. IT DOESN'T. No manager will replace Roy that isn't a yes-man for the owners. If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times: what we're seeing year-in-year-out is an agenda NOT to go down and NOT to go up. It's viewed by owners as a pure business and the model is not about trying to compete with top six teams or go down. Odds are that the three teams to go down are already locked in, so there won't be any investment by this band of owners. How many seasons will it take before the masses see the elephant in the room? Now, I can understand the owners wanting to make their money, but I don't like the lies, the deception, the BS given weekly to the Palace fans that there is a glorious vision of a trophy. That's why I envy teams like Brighton. Yes, they may go down trying to get to the top, but at least they're trying, and they're honest about it. I'd rather support a non-EPL team with that desire than a fake.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 21 Jan 24 6.39am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I haven't heard anyone from Palace talking about the possibilities of winning a trophy for donkeys years, other than the occasional interview throw away line of, "of course a cup run would be nice"

You must have significantly better sources -

Originally posted by Oddball2021

Some posters on here rightly assessing that the issue is not Roy. He is just an expendable scapegoat for a management agenda to stay in the PL at the least possible cost whilst convincing the fanbase the club has ambition. IT DOESN'T. No manager will replace Roy that isn't a yes-man for the owners. If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times: what we're seeing year-in-year-out is an agenda NOT to go down and NOT to go up. It's viewed by owners as a pure business and the model is not about trying to compete with top six teams or go down. Odds are that the three teams to go down are already locked in, so there won't be any investment by this band of owners. How many seasons will it take before the masses see the elephant in the room? Now, I can understand the owners wanting to make their money, but I don't like the lies, the deception, the BS given weekly to the Palace fans that there is a glorious vision of a trophy. That's why I envy teams like Brighton. Yes, they may go down trying to get to the top, but at least they're trying, and they're honest about it. I'd rather support a non-EPL team with that desire than a fake.

 

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View thetopgeezer's Profile thetopgeezer Flag Streatham Hill 21 Jan 24 7.58am Send a Private Message to thetopgeezer Add thetopgeezer as a friend

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I'm usually one of the last to call for someone's head. Call it stupid loyalty. I see myself as a swing state - when I say it's over it's usually past over. I'm a big Parish fan given the last ten years and the academy and...er...oh.

Roy should go ASAP but the problems have got deeper and are eloquently exposed in these posts and the attached article. The only thing keeping us up are worse teams who are improving and points deductions which may get rescinded or not given. Worse, remember The Championship? You need high quality and massive desire to escape. Relegation would see Olise and probably Eze go. No way could I see the remainder bounce back.

I would take Potter in a heartbeat as I have nothing but admiration for what Brighton are doing but would he take us? I would take Cooper. But to be fair to Roy the only reason I am saying he should go is for a new manager bounce and because this bad run means we've lost our way. He's not selecting youth because his job is to keep us up, not our long term future.

One last point is we've run out of luck. Remember Roy's second game, the thumping of Leeds 5 1? We were clinging on during the first half when they could have been out of sight. Had we lost would that wonderful run have happened..?

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 21 Jan 24 8.40am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

The malaise runs deeper than Roy - we all know that.
Tough times for the Club but another more organized and forward thinking Manager would get a better song from the players in my opinion.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 21 Jan 24 8.55am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

The Brentford win, while obviously welcome, to a certain extent masked the problems which continue to remain.
It's possible that Roy stays and a similar win v Sheffield Utd will again provide a similar sticking plaster to a gaping wound.

This season we have failed to score in over a third of our games, even our better players have underperformed and we continue to play the same way as if something will miraculously change.
We haven't been unlucky this season - our performances have got the results they deserved.
I think there needs to be a managerial change to provide a catalyst for fresh impetus and alternative approach.
Let's face it we can't do much worse than we already are.
A fresh voice and approach could well galvanise players.
We might see some threatening set pieces, some fluidity in the final third,some forward passes, more support and service to the striker(s) and perhaps one or two of the younger players coming through.

 

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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 21 Jan 24 9.11am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

We are managed by the football equivalent of Joe Biden.
He is a footballing dinosaur in terms of tactics. Every team knows that home or away we play for a draw at best. Teams must be practicing set pieces all week before playing us.
The banner was fully justified. He wonít resign unless Parrish tells him itís by mutual consent or your sacked.
The shareholders should put the club up for sale as none of them have the money, or the inclination to put what is needed into the club.
There would be plenty of bidders with deep pockets. Am I bothered it is someone like Abramovich - No Iím not!
We must be the most unhappy club in the league. Everton are in the s*** and they had 37,000 on Wednesday. Luton the same , all in it together.
Itís very depressing.

 


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