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View You What's Profile You What Flag se25 03 Feb 24 5.09pm Send a Private Message to You What Add You What as a friend

Brighton ran 5km more than us but had 69% possession. That is pathetic and shows a lack of intensity in closing down and effort. Didnít feel like they gave a t**s!

 

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View mart.denman's Profile mart.denman Flag In a cave 03 Feb 24 6.58pm Send a Private Message to mart.denman Add mart.denman as a friend

Just spoke to my son who unfortunately went to the game said that none of the team looked like they cared,
No passion I the club surely they are fed up playing dross tactics💩

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 03 Feb 24 7.57pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i saw a couple minutes of the Tottenham game today. Richarlison had the ball, 15 yards in front of goal. Took a shot. It bounced off a defender and sailed 20 yards toward mid-field.

it was that moment that Richarlison sprinted back to recoup. And i thought, why do we see that intensity so rarely ?

top players are always hungry. Never complacent. never fearful of messing it up. Even if it means picking up a few yellow cards.....play with your heart.

bad yellow cards.....gobby lippy mouthy at the ref, fights off the ball, impetuous kicking of the ball away...etc

good yellow cards......crunching tackles, brutal aggression, gamesmanship ....etc.

the OP has a point. Not enough heart in the team. There is no shame in losing at Arsenal, Anfield or other big stadia....but there is shame in lacking that fire in the belly. And in the manner of the losses.

i would rather us relegated with a ton of red and yellow cards than relegated without a fight.

 


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View FinchleyEagle's Profile FinchleyEagle Flag 03 Feb 24 8.09pm Send a Private Message to FinchleyEagle Add FinchleyEagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i saw a couple minutes of the Tottenham game today. Richarlison had the ball, 15 yards in front of goal. Took a shot. It bounced off a defender and sailed 20 yards toward mid-field.

it was that moment that Richarlison sprinted back to recoup. And i thought, why do we see that intensity so rarely ?

top players are always hungry. Never complacent. never fearful of messing it up. Even if it means picking up a few yellow cards.....play with your heart.

bad yellow cards.....gobby lippy mouthy at the ref, fights off the ball, impetuous kicking of the ball away...etc

good yellow cards......crunching tackles, brutal aggression, gamesmanship ....etc.

the OP has a point. Not enough heart in the team. There is no shame in losing at Arsenal, Anfield or other big stadia....but there is shame in lacking that fire in the belly. And in the manner of the losses.

i would rather us relegated with a ton of red and yellow cards than relegated without a fight.

This with f***ing bells on

 


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Yours sincerely
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View radicalsteve's Profile radicalsteve Flag ottawa 03 Feb 24 8.57pm Send a Private Message to radicalsteve Add radicalsteve as a friend

I remember the game at the Amex 3 years ago under covid rules; Brighton were all over us for most of the match, but Benteke scored that half volley off a Townsend cross right at the end. In those days we had the resilience, showed up for 90 minutes, did not give away soft goals in the first 5 minutes and looked like we had a plan. Interestingly, Roy was the manager then! Like night and day now, completely outplayed by most clubs. Could barely get over the line against Sheffield, who got wacked today because they are really poor.

Something has to give, or it will go from misery to chaos and completely unravel in the next two weeks.

Edited by radicalsteve (03 Feb 2024 8.57pm)

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 04 Feb 24 1.11am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

With Roy H. at the helm, I feel we are slowly, but surely walking towards relegation. Unless Everton and Nott Forest get a 10 point punishment.
Wonder what the team/squad is doing on the training ground? We are to worst team when it comes to score from corner (0), and probably the worst team to defend from corners. OK, a little bit excuse to be given, namely that Doucoure, Eze and Olise are missing most of the games.
Followed Schlupp at Amex. He seems to find an area in no man's land where he is not tracking players, just zombie-jogging waving his arms for team mates to cover the opposition. And he is still in the team, with the likes of Henderson and Hughes to mention two others.
We are, without a doubt, the worst team (with Sheff Utd) in the league. No heart, no desire, seemingly no game plan than Andersen knocking a long ball when we "attack". It was small boys vs men yesterday, and it is not the first time this season.
So please board, at least give us a fighting chance to stay up with a replacement for our dear Mr. Hodgson...

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Feb 24 7.31am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

I don't necessarily agree that there was no effort yesterday.

But I didn't see a coherent game plan or structure. Conceding so early in that environment probably undid that.

Brighton were everything we weren't. Tactically sound, moved the ball at pace, with a flow to their game. Quicker in mind and action.

There are so many negatives with this current group that it's hard to know where to start.

So I'll focus on one thing - on field leadership. Of which I see none. Our experienced players look clapped out. The younger players need a leader and we haven't got one.

Much as I don't like him, and as an example only, Jordan Henderson would have been a standard setting on field general. In the fashion of the experienced loans that Parish talked about pre transfer window. Instead we get a 19 year old with no Premier League experience. I think Wharton has a lot of promise, but is he what we needed for the now ?

 


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View mart.denman's Profile mart.denman Flag In a cave 04 Feb 24 7.38am Send a Private Message to mart.denman Add mart.denman as a friend

The whole problem with our team is management driven.
If you look at any successful team the heart beat comes from the side lines.
Top of the league Liverpool & look how animated & passionate Klopp is as he plays every ball with the team.
Don't get me wrong I find Klopp annoying but he's a good example & that his drive replicates on the training ground.
Newcastle rise has been management driven as has Aston Villa,with no massive change of personnel but just ticking away as a united force all playing for each other
We have much improved training ground now so no excuses there....I wonder what deep down Ray & Paddy are thinking as they surely must be feeling the life being sucked from them playing out Roy's tactics like chess moves & at the same speed.
Palace has lost its 12th man too as we watch our coach stand motionless in the dug out with the team under performance in front of him there's nothing there.
It's rubbing off on all of us too.
All this being said I don't blame Roy because it's not his fault he got employed it's squarely the fault of Parish

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 04 Feb 24 9.52am Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

And what does Hodgson say, we showed heart in the 2nd half, what after not bothering for 45 mins and being 3 goals down. How has he not been sacked already.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Feb 24 9.55am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

If we are going to go down let's do it having a go.

I applaud Luton they really are going for it and their fans must be very happy with the effort and attacking style.

 


One more point

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View mart.denman's Profile mart.denman Flag In a cave 04 Feb 24 11.42am Send a Private Message to mart.denman Add mart.denman as a friend

My work colleague is a Luton fan & he's loving it because they are in the struggle together.
Fans being given something to cheer as even when losing there's hope.
Watched the Palace Vs Liverpool 3-3 game hi lights the other day as I was at the game with my son who was 10 then & the never give up attitude of the team against a star studded Liverpool team
Excuses about our squad now being second rate is only half the problem, no fight in them, no emotion!
He may not of been the best player but give me Damian Delaneys heart & emotional performance.
Yannick Bolasie belief in himself to just go for it


 

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