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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 09 Feb 24 11.59am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Whilst what you say may seem fair, it still begs the question why bring him on when 3-0 down?
I'm not saying this in hindsight.
I was at the game and the people I was with were all scratching our heads when Olise was brought on.
The game was gone.

Exactly. Less about if he was deemed fit, more about to lunacy to bring on our most important half injured player when 3-0 down. Shut up shop, take hte loss and move on.

Indefensibly stupid decision.

Losing our best player for Burnley, Luton, and Everton. Games that could have secured our season.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 Feb 24 6.19am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Exactly. Less about if he was deemed fit, more about to lunacy to bring on our most important half injured player when 3-0 down. Shut up shop, take hte loss and move on.

Indefensibly stupid decision.

Losing our best player for Burnley, Luton, and Everton. Games that could have secured our season.

Have the games already been played?

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 10 Feb 24 7.26am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Have the games already been played?

Click on 2023/24 tab above, fixtures and results and you will be able to answer your own question.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 10 Feb 24 8.18am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Olise has had surgery on his torn hamstring which was evidently severe following his collision with the keeper playing for France U21s last summer.
Rehabilitation of HS surgery is complex and slow, especially for an elite athlete. Olise is clearly not out of the woods yet with this injury as he is getting regular recurrence symptoms.
He pulled up late in the Sheffield United game and then again v Brentford.
He then walked off the pitch v Brighton having pulled up after 10 minutes. In all three instances he was holding his left leg hamstring.
The detail of his issues is unclear. Roy said after Sheffield Utd that the injury was lower down from the surgery. There are four hamstring muscles in the back of the leg and it would be odd for the fine detail of his issues to be shared publicly. But it is clear he has an ongoing problem in the region.
Problematic hamstrings are tricky things and it is very hard to know how to optimise dealing with them through a recuperation of rest and exercise. Unfortunately recurring injury is not uncommon.
However, he will be receiving top quality attention and Im sure it is being closely monitored.
At his age if it is rested and treated correctly he should fully recover.
It is also highly likely based on his recent performances that he must be a well sought after player. I dont know how potential buyers will view this now. They may want to see him having an extended run for us or they may take the risk and rely on their own teams to make/keep him fully fit moving forwards and snaffle him up at a fee to be agreed.
Either way, it is important that Olise makes a full recovery. He is shaping into a top top talent and the world of football needs players of his exceptional ability to perform at the highest levels.

 

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View The Yorkshire Eagle's Profile The Yorkshire Eagle Flag Great Ouseburn, N Yorkshire 10 Feb 24 8.21am Send a Private Message to The Yorkshire Eagle Add The Yorkshire Eagle as a friend

There is a mix of ineptitude and poor management by all concerned here, IMO.
IF, as had been stated by ‘the medical team’ that Olise’ was fit enough to play, then why not start him, especially against Brighton who were coming into the game off a heavy defeat? We all agree bringing him on when the game was lost made no sense, as was keeping him on until 85 mins or so against the Blades when 3-1 up. Both decision make whoever had final say culpable. I question the medical teams competence as he was clearly not fully ready, and Roy et al who ‘did a Boris’ and were ‘guided by the medical science’’, but screwed up by bringing him on when 0-3 down. Likely as not it wouldn’t have made a difference had he been started, but at least we wouldn’t now be questioning Roy and co for their decision.

Edited by The Yorkshire Eagle (10 Feb 2024 8.23am)

 

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View BelfastEagle's Profile BelfastEagle Flag 10 Feb 24 9.19am Send a Private Message to BelfastEagle Add BelfastEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I think we have to accept that, Sadly Michael Olise has played his last game for us, Thanks Roy, when his release clause is activated on July 1st he will leave, but only if he is fit, the worst scenario is he is injured again before he leaves, not going to be match fit for us this season.

I’m not sure about heaping all this blame on Roy. Would I have brought him on…no

The question is why was he assessed as fit to play ? Whoever on the physio side is making these decisions needs to be removed immediately they are dangerously incompetent.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 10 Feb 24 9.57am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

I saw a clip of him walking up the tunnel at Brighton where he wasn't limping, so fingers crossed in the next two months with the right support Olise should be able to make a good recovery assuming he and his practitioners work very closely and communicate well. They should be led by his body, not the clock.

 

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View DenTyler's Profile DenTyler Flag Sidcup 10 Feb 24 1.20pm Send a Private Message to DenTyler Add DenTyler as a friend

My 10p worth.

What has happened is done. Now pointless to keep going over the decision to bring him on. I myself would have given him Brighton AND the Chelsea game off. I would not have had him on the bench and thought of the best chance of the bigger picture.

Anyway, as to if we see him again, I think we will. He seems pretty level headed and if he wanted out he could have gone last summer but to everyone’s surprise he signed on with a new 4 year deal.

If we stay up I think he will be here next year as will Eze.

I think the chances are we are more likely to lose 1 or both of our centre backs first. MG because he is of the quality looked at by the big boys and Anderson because he just looks fed up and wants out.

If we go down obviously that changes everything.

I also get some comfort that we will get a much truer fee should we sell Olise or Eze now with there new contracts than we would have gotten previously which you would hope be used on the squad not on the new stadium or bonuses

 

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View trapperjohn's Profile trapperjohn Flag Horsham 10 Feb 24 3.39pm Send a Private Message to trapperjohn Add trapperjohn as a friend

I wonder if anyone at the game can confirm how much of a warm up MO had before the second half? Was he out on the pitch during half time ?

 


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View XKudu's Profile XKudu Flag Leamington 10 Feb 24 4.53pm Send a Private Message to XKudu Add XKudu as a friend

Funnily I have questioned warm up effectiveness for Palace players. Henderson was injured 6 or 7 weeks ago after an early keeper kick that looked suspiciously like it was caused by lack of proper warm up.

If I was Parish I’d be all over this as if it is a contributing factor it would be inexcusable from the players, coaching and staff and culture at the club which would point to apathy.

Is Roy good at this minutia stuff or has he just become a big picture statesman figure.

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 10 Feb 24 6.47pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Exactly. Less about if he was deemed fit, more about to lunacy to bring on our most important half injured player when 3-0 down. Shut up shop, take hte loss and move on.

Indefensibly stupid decision.

Losing our best player for Burnley, Luton, and Everton. Games that could have secured our season.

If he was even on the bench then our medics/ physios must have said he was okay to play at least some of the game. Methinks the "stupid decision" is more appropriately accredited to them.

 


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View XKudu's Profile XKudu Flag Leamington 10 Feb 24 9.18pm Send a Private Message to XKudu Add XKudu as a friend

As I and others were saying on here live on the match thread just before half time please god don’t bring Olise on in second half UNLESS we get 2 goals back and there’s a sniff of a result. Only then risk him towards the end. That was the sensible risk reward decision and we called it. To risk him, 3 goals down for a whole half showed fuzzy thinking. Was the mistake compounded by him not having time to properly warm up. Let’s not even go there. &#128543;

Anyway…mistakes are made. We all make them. Roy was clearly panicking at half time and perhaps wasn’t thinking clearly. I forgive.

Edited by XKudu (11 Feb 2024 10.36am)

 

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